shining city on a hill was a poor joke

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shining city on a hill was a poor joke

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the idea that the USA is some shining symbol of freedom via democracy has been laid bare as old bones white painted sepulchers, we have at our core cancer, built on promoting ignorance as virtue and with racism, homophobia, xenophobia, misogyny its core tenets.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/06/opin ... z8xm-k0Saw
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Speak for yourself.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:50 pm
Speak for yourself.
I'm sure he was, and yet I have no doubt millions of Americans feel the same way. I know I do.
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¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 1:55 pm
the idea that the USA is some shining symbol of freedom via democracy has been laid bare as white painted sepulchers, we have at our core cancer, built on promoting ignorance as virtue and with racism, homophobia, xenophobia, misogyny its core tenets.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/06/opin ... z8xm-k0Saw

Thank you.
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bypassing the paywall
https://archive.is/yZV61
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¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 1:55 pm
the idea that the USA is some shining symbol of freedom via democracy has been laid bare as old bones white painted sepulchers, we have at our core cancer, built on promoting ignorance as virtue and with racism, homophobia, xenophobia, misogyny its core tenants.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/06/opin ... z8xm-k0Saw
That link doesn't work when I try it.
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¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:25 pm
bypassing the paywall
https://archive.is/yZV61
Yep. This is exactly right. We are a thoroughly corrupted cesspool, and we have the president to prove it.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
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Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 6:02 pm
¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:25 pm
bypassing the paywall
https://archive.is/yZV61
Yep. This is exactly right. We are a thoroughly corrupted cesspool, and we have the president to prove it.
Why are there so many Americans who can't or won't see this? If even only 10% of Americans failed to see it, it would still be mind boggling to me and tragic! Too many people seem to accept behavior and speech from Trump that they would never tolerate even coming from their closest friends and family! How could such an obviously vile and corrupt man have become so popular? Apparently he successfully appealed to the deep-seated, inherent bigotry and hatred that that still exists in far too many of us than I was willing to believe.
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Gunnar wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:41 am
Why are there so many Americans who can't or won't see this? If even only 10% of Americans failed to see it, it would still be mind boggling to me and tragic!
OK, so, democracy is a reading person's game. I don't love Al Gore's personality, but I think he predicted this one accurately. The video generation is not one to think critically. Most people have effectively handed their decisions over to video content.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:47 am
Gunnar wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:41 am
Why are there so many Americans who can't or won't see this? If even only 10% of Americans failed to see it, it would still be mind boggling to me and tragic!
OK, so, democracy is a reading person's game. I don't love Al Gore's personality, but I think he predicted this one accurately. The video generation is not one to think critically. Most people have effectively handed their decisions over to video content.
Now that makes sense! It should have seemed more obvious to me. I have always loved to read about a large variety of subjects and opinions and in more than one language. Perhaps that helped immunize me from this MAGA insanity.
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