Election Day 1

[Dr Exiled]

... supposed populism on the right ...

Exactly that.

There will be no 50% reduction in energy costs as Trump has promised. No significant reduction in food costs. Housing prices aren’t coming down more than 10% without a recession forcing a greater reduction. None of that can be changed through Trump Administration policy. He knows that, and I suspect that a good portion of his voter base also subconsciously knows it, but the lie of all of that is a comfortable blanket, and his supporters will wrap themselves within it and embrace it. Excuses will follow, most manufactured by Trump’s donor base, to keep the Trump voter base compliant and manipulated.

Well, I think the people want populist policies and the donors don't, donors on both sides. I think this is the underlying theme and has been from as far back as I can see.

[canpakes]

The easiest way is to improve their lives in some tangible way. These voters don’t care if transgender people are allowed to play in sports. They care if they can afford to feed their children next month.

A good number of them very much want to keep transgender people out of sports. Let's not pretend that it was an enlightened pragmatism that won Trump the election. The man is going to raise prices on everything, if he gets his way. Which part of your car is not impacted by tariffs on products coming out of Asia?

Agreed.

As Trump cannot keep any of his economic promises, his voting base will still need to scapegoat groups of ‘others’ in order to deploy their rage about remaining economically suffering (as if folks who populated boat parades and $90K pickup parades could realistically claim to be economically suffering in the first place, lol).

Anger is the main ingredient in Trumpism and it constantly needs to find new targets. Or to continue to pound existing targets. The Trump base always complains about someone out there supposedly getting something that they don’t deserve, and that scapegoating won’t stop on Inauguration Day.

[Gadianton]

The failure is the American people's, and they are about to get what they asked for.

He isn’t saying anything new. The second Trump presidency is likely to be the same as the first.

The Trump Bitcoin spike signaled the win last night, and the markets following, together, are signaling that Trump, like Nick Fuentes has said, is full of crap, and his threats are just hype because hate and absurdity sells to stupid people (as Schmo recognizes). Ajax has even suddenly decided we don't need a civil war now that he's won. thanks guys! My expectations were decently hedged, as the largest positions by far in my portfolio are bitcoin miners. The most emotional part of today for me won't be how to deal with the loss of democracy, but will the Trump bull trap continue for a few more days or do I sell now?

My right-wing friend was over the moon this morning and was trying not to be a sore winner. We had a nice civil conversation about it, and I told him that I think things will probably be okay, although Trump will ruin the lives of a lot of people, the likelihood is I won't be one of them. My family are immigrants, I did the paperwork myself; legal of course, but, as I've said, Trump's track record and his threats pace legal immigrants as much if not more than illegal immigrants, because it's much easier to wreak havoc with procedure then it is to drive trucks around to find people and haul them back to Mexico, when they'll be in the back of a Trumper-mom's SUV crossing over again a month later anyway. Camps and prisons just aren't cost effective. While I said I only give it 1-2% that we'd be affected -- he'd have to really deport in the millions before he'd get to us (if Trump gets to the 20 million number, we'd be in the risk zone for sure) -- but If we are, then like any of my red family, I will never speak to him again. Trump won the election threatening immigrants both illegal and legal, as that was the number one crowd pleaser; my family are immigrants, those who voted for him are my enemies. Really simple. He was surprised, he wanted to tell me that Trump is just talking about those who crossed the wrong way and didn't follow the law (he knows so little he doesn't even know what a green card or visa or anything is) and I told him that like inflation, or any of the many other things he knows nothing about but on his knees praying to God for Trump over, he isn't listening, and he doesn't know enough to contextualize what he's hearing even if if he were listening. The conversation moved on to other things. He did report that being in other parts of town for some part time work he does, that in the poorer areas there were lots of Harris signs at the voting tents. I was actually glad for that, that my extrapolation based on my observations around my house was wrong. I want this to be a totally honest landslide win.

I'll be looking forward to the post-polling wrap-ups from our informed folks here, so I can know who to feel bad for or not feel bad for. Immigrants honestly may get what they deserve. It's not like Trumpers tell it, they are often conservative and like tough guys, and as I've explained before, once they get here, they think they're special and say "no more." There's an economic incentive, as immigrants are here mostly to work, not take advantage of our barely-existing entitlements, and letting MORE immigrants in beyond themselves lowers their wages.

Hopefully Trump is happy incompetent Trump and calls it good just being in the limelight and lets his supporters down by not making good on all the threats he promised them to get elected. His age and health issues our on our side. But I may participate far less in political stuff this round because the people have spoken, there's no ambiguity, it's not tyranny of the minority now. If immigrants didn't vote in record numbers for Harris, I don't feel sorry for them; if women didn't; I don't feel sorry for women either (as a group). I'd rather put my time into things that help me directly, then put my time and worry into the bigger picture and the future of the country or the world.

[ajax18]

He knows that, and I suspect that a good portion of his voter base also subconsciously knows it

I know it consciously. You don't get to undo the damage you did to the economy by printing an excessive amount of scamdemic stimulus checks just by voting for a new president four years later. You have to pay the price of Bidenomics whether you voted for it or not. Argentina knows that. At least we'll be going in the right direction for a while. For me it's enough to see the political prisoners freed and put an end to partisan political justice for a while.

[Kishkumen]

I know it consciously. You don't get to undo the damage you did to the economy by printing an excessive amount of scamdemic stimulus checks just by voting for a new president four years later. You have to pay the price of Bidenomics whether you voted for it or not. Argentina knows that. At least we'll be going in the right direction for a while. For me it's enough to see the political prisoners freed and put an end to partisan political justice for a while.

For those who care about facts, as Ajax clearly does not:

Current rate of inflation 2.4%
Current unemployment rate: 4.1%

Argentina? Are you nucking futs?

[Res Ipsa]

He knows that, and I suspect that a good portion of his voter base also subconsciously knows it

I know it consciously. You don't get to undo the damage you did to the economy by printing an excessive amount of scamdemic stimulus checks just by voting for a new president four years later. You have to pay the price of Bidenomics whether you voted for it or not. Argentina knows that. At least we'll be going in the right direction for a while. For me it's enough to see the political prisoners freed and put an end to partisan political justice for a while.

For the second time, Trump will inherit a strong economy from a Democratic administration. The first time around, he didn’t monkey with it much. This time you’ll get to see him drive it into the ditch up close and personal.

But you already know that, which is why you are making advance excuses for Trump the day after the election.

[msnobody]

I know it consciously. You don't get to undo the damage you did to the economy by printing an excessive amount of scamdemic stimulus checks just by voting for a new president four years later. You have to pay the price of Bidenomics whether you voted for it or not. Argentina knows that. At least we'll be going in the right direction for a while. For me it's enough to see the political prisoners freed and put an end to partisan political justice for a while.

For the second time, Trump will inherit a strong economy from a Democratic administration. The first time around, he didn’t monkey with it much. This time you’ll get to see him drive it into the ditch up close and personal.

But you already know that, which is why you are making advance excuses for Trump the day after the election.

The economy isn’t looking good when I drive through large shopping centers here with vacant storefront after vacant storefront.

[Gadianton]

The economy isn’t looking good when I drive through large shopping centers here with vacant storefront after vacant storefront.

All of those storefronts will come to vibrantly to life again after a year or two of Donald Trump as president. Get ready!

[Kishkumen]

All of those storefronts will come to vibrantly to life again after a year or two of Donald Trump as president. Get ready!

Hey, what do I care about living according to my freedom to choose when I can have vibrant storefronts! Woohooo!

Trump 2032! Vibrant storefronts!

[Gadianton]

correction:

Hey, what do I care about living according to my freedom to choose when I can have (the irrational belief that Trump will bring back) vibrant storefronts! Woohooo!