Where would Jesus build His temples?

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Re: Where would Jesus build His temples?

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Nowhere.

The Temple was the dwelling place of God. The first temple was the mobile temple/tent structure (tabernacle) that was built by Moses after the Israelites were freed from 400 years of Egyptian slavery. Hundreds of years later, the permanent dwelling place of God was built by King Solomon in Jerusalem. Then this temple was destroyed, and the Israelites went into exile. After many more years, a second temple was built. Then, this second temple was destroyed in 70ad.

Jesus (God in the flesh) dwelled among us and said that he would send the Holy Spirit to dwell in us. No more physical temples/structures. The temple of God (dwelling place) is now in those who follow Jesus.

So, in short, Jesus wouldn't build His temples anywhere (physical structures) because these temples of God are those who follow Jesus and they are everywhere.
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ceeboo wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:13 pm
Nowhere.

The Temple was the dwelling place of God. The first temple was the mobile temple/tent structure (tabernacle) that was built by Moses after the Israelites were freed from 400 years of Egyptian slavery. Hundreds of years later, the permanent dwelling place of God was built by King Solomon in Jerusalem. Then this temple was destroyed, and the Israelites went into exile. After many more years, a second temple was built. Then, this second temple was destroyed in 70ad.

Jesus (God in the flesh) dwelled among us and said that he would send the Holy Spirit to dwell in us. No more physical temples/structures. The temple of God (dwelling place) is now in those who follow Jesus.

So, in short, Jesus wouldn't build His temples anywhere (physical structures) because these temples of God are those who follow Jesus and they are everywhere.
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Which Jesus?
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ceeboo wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:13 pm

Nowhere.
Granted, a non-believer such as myself isn't given much credence in my interpretation of the Bible, in my opinion your explanation makes the most sense, esp in light of the temple scriptures posted earlier on this thread.
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yellowstone123 wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 6:41 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:58 pm


I think you would do better to let others decide what they choose to do in “applying their religious fervor”.

Also, I’m not in the business of telling Jesus how to do his work.

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Then I think you might agree that a soup kitchen is where you'll most likely find the Savior these days. The Gospels frequently depict Jesus sharing meals and providing food, often as a backdrop for his teachings and miracles.
It is through us that His work is accomplished. He can’t do it alone. It is in the temple that we make covenants to live all of the gospel teachings, not just those that we pick and choose. One of those is to serve our fellow man without reserve (Book of Mormon commandment) and sacrifice our time and talents in doing so.

On Thursdays every week I spend part of my day working at a nonprofit organization doing ‘down and dirty’ service. This is just one example of the many ways the Savior taught us to serve in our communities and the world at large. When we have served the least of these we have served Him.

While at the and temple making covenants to be a ‘light unto the world’ there is the added benefit of doing ordinances for those that were not, for one reason or another, able to do them for themselves.

All the way around, the temple helps make better people…followers and disciples of Jesus Christ.

Here and hereafter.

Critics spend their time criticizing that which is peripheral to the actual purpose and meaning of the temple.

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Hi Abaddon
Abaddon wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:15 pm
ceeboo wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:13 pm
Nowhere.
Granted, a non-believer such as myself isn't given much credence in my interpretation of the Bible
For what it's worth, your personal belief (no matter what that happens to be at the moment - or is in at the moment) has little relevance concerning interpreting the Bible. In my opinion, anyone can read the Bible and draw basic conclusions about things that are as easily understood as the temple. To be fair, other subjects are not quite as transparent as this particular topic seems to be.
in my opinion your explanation makes the most sense, esp in light of the temple scriptures posted earlier on this thread.
I am glad to learn that my post was helpful.
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ceeboo wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:37 pm
Hi Abaddon
Abaddon wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:15 pm

Granted, a non-believer such as myself isn't given much credence in my interpretation of the Bible
For what it's worth, your personal belief (no matter what that happens to be at the moment - or is in at the moment) has little relevance concerning interpreting the Bible. In my opinion, anyone can read the Bible and draw basic conclusions about things that are as easily understood as the temple. To be fair, other subjects are not quite as transparent as this particular topic seems to be.
in my opinion your explanation makes the most sense, esp in light of the temple scriptures posted earlier on this thread.
I am glad to learn that my post was helpful.
I think there is some other stuff going on in the New Testament in regards to Jesus and the temple. A short A.I. synopsis:

In John 2:16, the Bible records Jesus as saying, "Do not make my Father’s house a house of trade." This statement was made when Jesus entered the temple courts and saw people selling animals and exchanging money, and he was expressing his frustration at the way the temple had become a place of commerce rather than a place of worship.

Jesus' use of the phrase "my Father’s house" is significant because it emphasizes his intimate relationship with God as his Father, and it underscores the importance of the temple as a place that should be respected and honored as a house of worship.

By referring to the temple as his Father’s house, Jesus was also highlighting the fact that the temple was ultimately a place that belonged to God, and that it should be treated with reverence and respect.
The House of the Lord. On the front of every LDS Temple.

Jesus saw the temple as being His Father’s House. He taught in the temple at a young age.

I think one can recognize that our bodies are potential receptacles of the Holy Spirit while at the same time recognizing that God has special ‘dwelling places’ in which His Spirit resides and His work is performed for the salvation and exaltation of mankind.

LDS folks have no qualms with New Testament scripture that refer to our bodies as temples.

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MG
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:51 pm
ceeboo wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:37 pm
Hi Abaddon


For what it's worth, your personal belief (no matter what that happens to be at the moment - or is in at the moment) has little relevance concerning interpreting the Bible. In my opinion, anyone can read the Bible and draw basic conclusions about things that are as easily understood as the temple. To be fair, other subjects are not quite as transparent as this particular topic seems to be.
I am glad to learn that my post was helpful.
I think there is some other stuff going on in the New Testament in regards to Jesus and the temple. A short A.I. synopsis:
Hey MG,

An A.I. synopsis? I typically don't enjoy discussing things with A.I., I would rather discuss things with a human being, but for you, I will make an exception. :)

In John 2:16, the Bible records Jesus as saying, "Do not make my Father’s house a house of trade." This statement was made when Jesus entered the temple courts and saw people selling animals and exchanging money, and he was expressing his frustration at the way the temple had become a place of commerce rather than a place of worship.

Jesus' use of the phrase "my Father’s house" is significant because it emphasizes his intimate relationship with God as his Father, and it underscores the importance of the temple as a place that should be respected and honored as a house of worship.

By referring to the temple as his Father’s house, Jesus was also highlighting the fact that the temple was ultimately a place that belonged to God, and that it should be treated with reverence and respect.
The House of the Lord. On the front of every LDS Temple.
I didn't know that - thanks for sharing.
Jesus saw the temple as being His Father’s House. He taught in the temple at a young age.
He did indeed.
I think one can recognize that our bodies are potential receptacles of the Holy Spirit while at the same time recognizing that God has special ‘dwelling places’ in which His Spirit resides and His work is performed for the salvation and exaltation of mankind.
I think people can recognize any number of things. As it relates to the temple (dwelling place of God) in the Bible, specifically, I think it's clear.

The short version:

Jesus leaves the temple for the last time (Mathew 24) - Mathew 23 ends with Jesus expressing compassionate grief over the judgement Jerusalem will soon face. Chapter 24 depicts this judgment, beginning with a description of Jesus’ travels. Jesus has been teaching in the temple (21:23–23:39), when He then heads for the Mount of Olives (24:1–3). This is significant because the prophet Ezekiel saw the glory of God leave the temple and go east to a mountain — the Mount of Olives (11:22–12:28) — right before the Babylonians decimated Jerusalem in 586 b.c. Before Babylon destroyed the first Jewish temple, God’s glory left - Now Jesus, the glory of God (James 2:1), leaves the second Jewish temple, revealing that its past/current level of importance and meaning will soon end just like the first temple's level of importance and meaning ended.

Then, in Mathew 24:1 we have the disciples pointing out the beauty and size of the temple. But this physical structure will soon be replaced by Christ as the center of Christianity as well as where God will dwell from this point forward (Rev. 21:22), as Jesus predicts the destruction of the physical temple (Matt. 24:2) - which happened in 70ad - and has never been rebuilt to date.
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While at the and temple making covenants to be a ‘light unto the world’ there is the added benefit of doing ordinances for those that were not, for one reason or another, able to do them for themselves.
MG2.0, How do you reconcile Hebrews 9:27 and Luke 16:31 with performing temple ordinances for the deceased?

Heb. 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Luke 16:31
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
"Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy” Jude 1:24
“the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.” 1 John 1:7 ESV
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Where would Jesus build His temples?

He wouldn't.
Matthew 27 KJV

50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.

51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
This marked the very instant that the separation between God and man was removed. The end of the Old Covenant, the begining of the New Covenant. No temples needed from there going forward.
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