How much?

[¥akaSteelhead]

I am predicting that the Trump administration's solution to the Ukraine issue will be to cut them loose and feed them to the wolves. The EU may stand up against Russia but it will make their energy costs **high**.

So the question becomes how much of eastern Europe are we willing to cede to Russian annexation before it becomes a problem?

[Gadianton]

Along with this question, can we get it on the table now that Biden's deficit spending on the CHIPS act that Trumpers are in meltdown over was in fact Biden's work, as Republicans will be taking credit for it a few years from now when they allow China to take Taiwan.

[¥akaSteelhead]

Yah I suspect Trump wouldn't do much re a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. I have extended family there.

What analysis are you reading around what the proposed American isolationism means for China to increase its presence on the international stage?

I also am suspecting internal balkanizations as minorities migrate to states that are friendly and conservatives in the blue states move to states they view more aligned with them. Right now the blue states on average pay way more into the federal coffers than the most of the red states.

I suspect our hegemony is soon done.

[ajax18]

I am predicting that the Trump administration's solution to the Ukraine issue will be to cut them loose and feed them to the wolves.

He'll do what the Democrat party would not do. He'll put the American taxpayer first and broker a peace deal. He'll provide an off ramp for Putin. Ukraine will have to give up the Donback and Crimea. Zelensky can go back to his people and say I wanted to keep fighting but the American people are done paying. Putin can go to his people and say, it wasn't all for not. We regained these territories. The war will end and Putin will stop. Putin advanced against Ukraine under Barry Obama, GWB, and JRB. He didn't advance against Donald Trump, nor will he. He knows Trump is willing to use force. It's the only thing Putin respects or understands. It's the same thing with Iran. Peace through strength works nearly every time. And with no deep state to tell him he can't, the interests of the America taxpayer may actually be respected this time. The administrative state will learn that they work for the taxpayer not the other way around.

The EU may stand up against Russia but it will make their energy costs **high**.

The EU doesn't believe in defense spending. It cuts into their universal healthcare funds. It's also hard to find money for defense when you're only willing to work 4 days a week and demand a fat retirement by 55, along with an open border and robust welfare state. But look at it this way, perhaps a peace deal will reduce carbon emissions. After all, isn't the most urgent matter global warming, not Ukraine hanging on to a few territories where most people speak Russian anyway?

So the question becomes how much of eastern Europe are we willing to cede to Russian annexation before it becomes a problem?

What happens if we do cede the Donback and Crimea? How is that bad for the American taxpayer. A peace deal is well worth the try. If democratic socialist run western Europe wants more than that, then they can pay for it. They can send their own woke armies of atheists, transvestites, and lgbtq to bleed and be dismembered on the battlefield. Let's see if they will or can put up a fight against the Russian army. Something tells me that they won't.

[Moksha]

Ukraine will have to give up the Donback and Crimea.

That's Donbas.

What happens if we do cede the Donback and Crimea?

They can send their own woke armies of atheists, transvestites, and lgbtq to bleed and be dismembered on the battlefield. Let's see if they will or can put up a fight against the Russian army. Something tells me that they won't.

What if those "woke armies of atheists, transvestites, and lgbtq" agreed to support the New Confederacy?

[canpakes]

He knows Trump is willing to use force.

No. Trump is not willing to use force. Putin is fully aware of this. And Trump’s fear of doing so is precisely one of the reasons that isolationists voted for him, as you hinted yourself a few sentences earlier.

Trump couldn’t even muster a single mean tweet about Putin for 8 years running. And don’t try to tell me that there wasn’t an opportunity to do so.

[Dr. Shades]

I am predicting that the Trump administration's solution to the Ukraine issue will be to cut them loose and feed them to the wolves.

How much more are you willing to increase the deficit on Ukraine's behalf?

So the question becomes how much of eastern Europe are we willing to cede to Russian annexation before it becomes a problem?

I think the question is how much are you willing to have the deficit balloon to prevent Russia from trying, and failing, to annex more than Ukraine?

[¥akaSteelhead]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/Trump's ... 024-10-07/

Interesting question. The projections and number I am finding suggests the previous Trump administration had nearly twice the deficit spending as 4 years under Biden, and Trump's plans will result in twice as much as Harris' proposals.

So if deficit spending is a sticky point for you. You picked the wrong horse.

[Gadianton]

How much more are you willing to increase the deficit on Ukraine's behalf?

Great question. But first we need to know how much the deficit has increased in response to Ukraine so far. I'm sure that number is clear in your mind since you're so concerned about it. Would you please provide that number?

[Dr Exiled]

How about let's stop the wars and stop demonizing the Palestinians, Iranians, Russians, and Chinese. Let's audit the DoD and all the aid we send to foreign countries. I don't believe we need a $Trillion DoD budget every year and we perhaps need to be smarter with our foreign aid. Julian Assange says these wars is just a way to wash money via foreign countries and then back into the defense industry. Foreign aid is perhaps the same thing. Is Assange's take a valid one, and if so, Is that where we want our resources to go?

Trump negotiating a peace between Russia and Ukraine is a good thing, however, the devil is always in the details. Also, Trump needs to do the same thing in the middle east. Greater Israel should not be a goal of anyone. Let's try getting along with the Iranians and others in the middle east instead of allowing Israel to continue to provoke and commit genocide.

I know this seems pollyanna like wishes. But we need to start somewhere.