Deeply moving essay from wife of a Trump supporter.

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:20 am
Some Schmo wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:41 am

"Trump derangement syndrome" is something people say because they don't have anything insightful to say. It's their retarded self-defense for having the idiotic audacity to think they know better. They are clearly the deranged ones. That is obvious.

They got projection as a habit from Trump.
Disagree to this extent. TDS is a tool with which to shut down communication.
I'm sure some people use it that way too.

Nobody is using it in the clinical sense. That's the point. There are no good reasons to call people justifiably concerned about Trump deranged. It is obvious people leveling that accusation aren't acknowledging reality, which is what derangement is.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:35 pm
This is a prime example of the unforgivable ignorance I was talking about.

Pull your head out of your ass Shades. damned Christ.
It’s pretty easy to shout “You’re just a poopy-head!” from the sidelines. Unfortunately, it’s not actually helpful and doesn’t advance the conversation at all.

In order to be useful, please list the specific point(s) you disagree with, then explain how I’m wrong.

Can you do it? I doubt you can.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:52 pm
Some Schmo wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:35 pm
This is a prime example of the unforgivable ignorance I was talking about.

Pull your head out of your ass Shades. damned Christ.
It’s pretty easy to shout “You’re just a poopy-head!” from the sidelines. Unfortunately, it’s not actually helpful and doesn’t advance the conversation at all.
The conversation you want to have is idiotic. It's not worth the time or effort.
In order to be useful, please list the specific point(s) you disagree with, then explain how I’m wrong.
The conversation has no potential to be useful. You've already been exposed to the information and remain daft. Talking about it further is insanely believing doing it again will have a different outcome.
Can you do it? I doubt you can.
I easily could. Everything you said made me roll my eyes because of what I know about the world. I don't see the point trying to explain it all to you. As this thread is about, why try discussing anything with such ignorant people? All of the evidence against your post is out there, but you've chosen to willfully ignore it, which is what willful ignorance is.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:57 pm
Again, Trump was President for four years ending four years ago, and all the so-called "damage" went away after Biden was sworn in.
Today, there are well over 200 Trump-appointed federal judges in office. Some of these -- e.g. Cannon, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett -- will undoubtedly qualify as lingering damage, depending on whom you ask.
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Bret Ripley wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 5:46 pm
Dr. Shades wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:57 pm
Again, Trump was President for four years ending four years ago, and all the so-called "damage" went away after Biden was sworn in.
Today, there are well over 200 Trump-appointed federal judges in office. Some of these -- e.g. Cannon, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett -- will undoubtedly qualify as lingering damage, depending on whom you ask.
When I read the latter thought, I didn't agree: I believed the so-called conservative judges were more likely to be jumping around on issues than the left leaning judges. For example, the deciding vote for the Supreme Court affirming the Affordable Care Act was made by Chief Justice John Roberts, a Bush appointee, because he saw it as a tax and the constitution gave the congress power to levy taxes. I thought that the liberal justices were more predictable as to how they would vote. I still think the same thing but not as strongly as I did before.

Here's another person's thoughts with her careful analysis.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... h-00152188
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:57 pm
Later that night, I briefly glanced at my husband and found myself not wanting to look into the eyes I love. I hated this divide. I wanted to touch his forearms and feel our connection, but I also felt an urge to punish him and deny him my touch.
Magically now, but never during the four years Trump was actually the President. Interesting.
Consider that between Trump’s 2016 victory and his 2024 victory, there has been some 8 years of new information and behavior of Trump’s that has come to light … to put it mildly.

It’s nothing unusual that people’s reaction to him could change between those years.
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yellowstone123 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:20 pm
Bret Ripley wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 5:46 pm
Today, there are well over 200 Trump-appointed federal judges in office. Some of these -- e.g. Cannon, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett -- will undoubtedly qualify as lingering damage, depending on whom you ask.
When I read the latter thought, I didn't agree
The 'latter thought' was 'depending on whom you ask,' which you demonstrated as true by disagreeing. :)
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Bret Ripley wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:48 pm
yellowstone123 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:20 pm


When I read the latter thought, I didn't agree
The 'latter thought' was 'depending on whom you ask,' which you demonstrated as true by disagreeing. :)
“Depending on whom you ask” is irrelevant based on the conclusion made prior.
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yellowstone123 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:26 am
Bret Ripley wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:48 pm
The 'latter thought' was 'depending on whom you ask,' which you demonstrated as true by disagreeing. :)
“Depending on whom you ask” is irrelevant based on the conclusion made prior.
My apologies for not being clearer, but I'm afraid you misread me: I offered no conclusion. I tried to explain how folks could perceive 'damage' that persisted after Trump's first term ended, which is the reason I included the phrase 'depending on whom you ask.' Perhaps it would have been clearer if I had put that at the beginning of the sentence? *shrug*
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Some Schmo wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 4:00 pm
Everything you said made me roll my eyes because of what I know about the world. I don't see the point trying to explain it all to you. As this thread is about, why try discussing anything with such ignorant people? All of the evidence against your post is out there, but you've chosen to willfully ignore it, which is what willful ignorance is.
So what do you think of the extreme hyper-snowflake-ism that was showcased in the opening post?
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