The Real Reason why Trump won

[Gadianton]

Shoplifting rose 20% or more. Stores are closing at a very large rate primarily in sanctuary cities like San Francisco because of shoplifting. And stores across the country are putting goods in locked cages. If you are going to deny that Immigration was a huge mess under Biden, good luck.

Guilt by association. You'd have to show that theft in San Fransisco increased for Latinos substantially under Biden at the very minimum in order to claim this. For now, I'll consider it a lie. You're chock full of these.

Or, you can just pretend you didn't lose

ha. That would be the person you elected as president, who for the last four years has pretended he didn't lose and has never shut up about it. I wouldn't be surprised if he puts more time into "invistigating" the 2020 election, trying to get his guys to manufacture evidence for fraud by Democrats, and then use that for his own legal warfare against people he doesn't like, than he does worrying about shoplifting.

And your president is proof that we don't have to sit back and admit defeat and take pointers from you and Ceeboo, we can pretend we won all we want and never shut up about it, and that may prove to be a great strategy to win votes, as it seemed to work pretty well for you and Ceeboo, and your president.

[Markk]

Guilt by association. You'd have to show that theft in San Fransisco increased for Latinos substantially under Biden at the very minimum in order to claim this. For now, I'll consider it a lie. You're chock full of these.

No I don't they are two sperate issues, read our exchange.

ha. That would be the person you elected as president, who for the last four years has pretended he didn't lose and has never shut up about it. I wouldn't be surprised if he puts more time into "invistigating" the 2020 election, trying to get his guys to manufacture evidence for fraud by Democrats, and then use that for his own legal warfare against people he doesn't like, than he does worrying about shoplifting.

And your president is proof that we don't have to sit back and admit defeat and take pointers from you and Ceeboo, we can pretend we won all we want and never shut up about it, and that may prove to be a great strategy to win votes, as it seemed to work pretty well for you and Ceeboo, and your president.

LoL....sitting in your basement and pretending sounds like a great strategy. And whether you like it or not he will be our president. Biden is my president, whether I agree with his policies or not. While you are pretending, you can also pretend that Trump will not be the President of the United States of America, and everything was great under Biden.

[Gadianton]

sitting in your basement and pretending sounds like a great strategy.

I didn't say sit in a basement and pretend, I said pretend. Your president didn't win by sitting in a basement, but by pretending and lying nonstop, with all major media covering him doing so. I totally agree that pretending in a basement won't work unless it's in front of a camera and the footage goes straight to the news and social media.

The fact that you believe in a person who does barely anything more than lie says more about you than him. You can feel good about winning in the sense that more people than not, like you, believe in an unashamed liar.

I just think it's interesting to the extent that you are bothered by Democrats not admitting to defeat in the way you wish them to. Especially when the motto of your party is believe in the lie no matter what.

You can make Don president by getting lies to go viral, you can't change reality much more than that. When Trump is president, San Francisco will still have a shoplifting problem, the US will still have a long-term inflation problem, and all the problems you believe are caused by illegals will still be problems nearly as significant or even more so, that's hard to say.

[canpakes]

Shoplifting rose 20% or more.

That can mean that last year the town caught 5 shoplifters, and this year they caught 6.

Stores are closing at a very large rate primarily in sanctuary cities like San Francisco because of shoplifting. And stores across the country are putting goods in locked cages.

I guess that why in the town where I live - with a population so lily-white that I’d be hard pressed to find a dozen folks who look slightly tanned, let alone like they’ve crossed a border anywhere - our local drugstore has plenty of goods under lock and key.

If you are going to deny that Immigration was a huge mess under Biden, good luck.

If you think that mass deportations are going to solve the shoplifting problem, then prepare to be confused two years from now.

[Dr Exiled]

Please tell me the right sources to look at oh wise one. I'm lost in a sea of right-wing propaganda apparently. At least you aren't reposting media matters nonsense on a daily basis like you used to.

The fact that you hate Media Matters is telling. I've yet to see anyone demonstrate a single example of anything Media Matters got wrong. Even EA used to applaud MMA

Here you go, and this mistake could force media matters to shut down as Musk sued them for defamation:

https://www.public.news/p/democrats-nee ... and-spread

This is simply a continuation of the censorship strategy the left has been employing for years and it is clearly wrong. The answer to bad speech is better speech, not censorship, a tactic your beloved website embraces.

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com ... I've-media/

The concept of "fake news" is simply a way to prohibit certain speech and convincing Facebook and google and Twitter prior to being purchased by Musk to manipulate algorithms to push the media matters narrative over other narratives is where media matters is dangerously wrong.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/media-m ... fake-news/

Finally, who cares what EA did or didn't applaud, just like readers here shouldn't give two craps about what I applaud or don't. Take a look at all the facts, not just the ones the "leaders" want disseminated, you know, let's support the first amendment and then let's all decide how the bus should be run. Let the people decide what is and what isn't fake news. Isn't that what democracy is about? Also, how can a voter effectively decide how to vote if all they get is media matters or for that matter only MAGA? Censorship isn't the answer.

[canpakes]

And your president is proof that we don't have to sit back and admit defeat and take pointers from you and Ceeboo, we can pretend we won all we want and never shut up about it, and that may prove to be a great strategy to win votes, as it seemed to work pretty well for you and Ceeboo, and your president.

It is curious. These folks elected a literal convicted fraudster, adulterous sexual abuser, and pathologically divisive and blatant liar to the top office of the land, and they’re now trying to explain to anyone who didn’t vote for him about their truth and values.

I don’t know that this is an effective approach.

[Markk]

Shoplifting rose 20% or more.

That can mean that last year the town caught 5 shoplifters, and this year they caught 6.

Stores are closing at a very large rate primarily in sanctuary cities like San Francisco because of shoplifting. And stores across the country are putting goods in locked cages.

I guess that why in the town where I live - with a population so lily-white that I’d be hard pressed to find a dozen folks who look slightly tanned, let alone like they’ve crossed a border anywhere - our local drugstore has plenty of goods under lock and key.

If you are going to deny that Immigration was a huge mess under Biden, good luck.

If you think that mass deportations are going to solve the shoplifting problem, then prepare to be confused two years from now.

Your are just making stuff up. Again there is a reason that stores are locking things up. You can deny this all your like or like Gad pretend that stuff like this aren't reality's.

You are just trying to create a strawman, I guess. Drug addition, from drugs mainly coming over the southern border. Inflation, and immigration all lead to higher shoplifting rates, and a lack of moral character for sure. You can pretend it is not a problem, it is a choice....yours.

Ask your local drug store manager why they are locking things up, and my guess is that he will say corporate (if it is a big box chain) ordered it because of revenue losses. If it is a mom and pops drugstore the answer is obvious, they are tired of being ripped off.

Shop lifting is an issue, a huge issue, and someone is paying for it....folks like you and I. Immigration is a huge issue, and whether you admit it or not we are also paying more because of it.

[Gadianton]

shoplifting is an issue, it's not an issue Biden caused and it sure as hell isn't an issue Trump will stop.

Best guess is that it's an issue that will continue to rise as wealth inequality increases, which isn't something either will stop, but Trump with billionaires as "czars" may do his part in making it worse than it otherwise would have been. Prison stocks shot up along with crypto when Trump (allegedly) won. Filling prisons with offenders may be a short term fix but not a long-term fix.

Cities hit the worst are almost certainly going to be gentrified cities where tech jobs flowed in and left folks living month to month struggling worse than they could have ever imagined. The only reason it hits blue states more is that blue states have historically been our economic engines. Texas and Florida are in the adolescent phase of success where people are flowing in with money, jobs are flowing in, but that's slowly outpricing current residents and as California is now, Texas will become.

[canpakes]

Your are just making stuff up.

No.

People don’t only steal if they’re immigrants. Years ago I worked for a specialty grocer and about 90% of the people we caught shoplifting were older or senior Caucasians, trying to steal expensive but unnecessary items like bagged frozen shrimp, mixed nuts, smoked eel, even. These were not poor folks, let alone immigrants. In most cases we needed to team a few folks up (witness + enforcement) and wait until they exited the store before approaching them. Inevitably all of them were impeccably dressed and driving rather expensive cars like Mercs and Caddies. Why would that be?

Sometimes, all it takes to try one’s hand at shoplifting is a sense of entitlement, or the belief that you’ve been ‘wronged by the system’ and therefore are owed X or Y. And given that the recent election was a demonstration that there are plenty of Americans who are not immigrants but who loudly express both beliefs, then the shoplifting problem’s cause and suspect pool can be seen to come from a far wider range than you want to admit.

You are just trying to create a strawman, I guess.

No, I’m only addressing your perception that illegals are responsible for all shoplifting.

Drug addition, from drugs mainly coming over the southern border.

Is that why stores are locking up certain cold and allergy medicines? Because of drugs coming across the border? Or because Bobbie Lee and MarkWayne have a small lab back at the trailer park and they’re using them as ingredients?

Inflation, and immigration all lead to higher shoplifting rates, and a lack of moral character for sure. You can pretend it is not a problem, it is a choice....yours.

Wait. How does immigration and inflation lead to a lack of moral character?

Is this why you hire illegal folks? : D

Ask your local drug store manager why they are locking things up, and my guess is that he will say corporate (if it is a big box chain) ordered it because of revenue losses. If it is a mom and pops drugstore the answer is obvious, they are tired of being ripped off.

Yes, it makes sense that it’s corporate policy, but local stores may still have discretion. It’s telling, then, that stores all over America are doing this. Not just stores in ‘sanctuary cities’.

Shop lifting is an issue, a huge issue, and someone is paying for it....folks like you and I. Immigration is a huge issue, and whether you admit it or not we are also paying more because of it.

Sure. But if you think that eliminating the second issue will magically make the first one go away, then you’re going to be disappointed when it doesn’t work out that way.

[Markk]

shoplifting is an issue

Yes and it regards to crime, was a campaign issue. Thank you.

it's not an issue Biden caused and it sure as hell isn't an issue Trump will stop.

It rose to rate it is today, with organized teams, and the lost will to fight it, and prosecuted happed under Bidens watch, and again a campaign issue that Veritas ignored. Shoplifting is just a evidence of a real problem of disregard and respect for law and order. in my opinion we need to bring back accountability to those that break the law, which went askew under Biden. You can pretend it did not, but it has.

Liberal ideology of free drug use and open borders is not doing so well, and the affects are starting to bloom, and people are starting to see it. If you believe we were in better shape under Biden, the majority of the population and most states disagree.