The Real Reason why Trump won

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Re: The Real Reason why Trump won

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Gadianton wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 4:56 pm
And your president is proof that we don't have to sit back and admit defeat and take pointers from you and Ceeboo,
Obviously, you don't have to take pointers from me, but, for your benefit, you really should consider doing so. Among the many benefits you would receive (should you start taking said pointers from me) would be to break the self-imposed bondage that your mind is in - Imagine if you allowed your mind to be free.

If removing the bondage that your mind is in is something you desire, let me know and I will try to help you.
we can pretend we won all we want and never shut up about it, and that may prove to be a great strategy to win votes, as it seemed to work pretty well for you and Ceeboo, and your president.
Let me help you think clearly: Just like Biden has been our President (you and me), Trump will be our President (you and me). Hope that helps.
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Re: The Real Reason why Trump won

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Markk wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 4:35 pm
Shoplifting rose 20% or more. Stores are closing at a very large rate primarily in sanctuary cities like San Francisco because of shoplifting.
Maybe you’ve been lied to.

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Re: The Real Reason why Trump won

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No.

People don’t only steal if they’re immigrants
Focus, that is why you are making stuff up. I never said such a thing. If fact if you watched and listen to the links I pasted you will see so.

That is a straw-man.
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Re: The Real Reason why Trump won

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canpakes wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:07 pm
Markk wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 4:35 pm
Shoplifting rose 20% or more. Stores are closing at a very large rate primarily in sanctuary cities like San Francisco because of shoplifting.
Maybe you’ve been lied to.

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From your link....

Contrary to media accounts, reported incidents declined over the same period in San Francisco (down 5 percent), even accounting for a large spike in 2021.


Most big box stores do not report it, they just pass the losses on, and lock stuff on.
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Re: The Real Reason why Trump won

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Shoplifting is just a evidence of a real problem of disregard and respect for law and order.
You're delusional then. If you think there's no correlation between poverty and crime -- you're seriously delusional. If you don't think greater inequality makes for greater poverty -- you're seriously delusional. The fact that Trump won shows just how desperate people get when they're feeling financially insecure.
in my opinion we need to bring back accountability to those that break the law, which went askew under Biden. You can pretend it did not, but it has.
Sure buddy, like I say, Trump won't fix shoplifting in San Francisco with "accountability". You can only build so many prisons. The engines that drive the crime will be hotter than ever.
Liberal ideology of free drug use and open borders is not doing so well,
Trump failed to plug the border for four years -- drugs still flowed in. Drugs will continue to flow in despite any Trump theatrics. Fentanyl in particular won't be stopped by plugging borders because it's butt simple to make. It will flow from underground producers here in America in the unlikely event that Trump really does somehow stop it from coming from Mexico. Ideology and chest thumping doesn't fix problems, something you're about to find out. Not that I think you care that much, I seriously think most right-wingers care more about having an issue to be angry about than they do any of the issues they claim to be angry about.
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Re: The Real Reason why Trump won

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By the way, drug legalization is hardly a "liberal ideology" any more than a conservative one.

https://www.cato.org/blog/milton-friedm ... %20victims.
Milton Friedman wrote:Friedman: Crack would never have existed, in my opinion, if you had not had drug prohibition. It was drug prohibition. Why was crack created? Because cocaine was so expensive. … I’m not talking from personal experience. I’ve never touched any of this stuff. I’m speaking from what I’ve read in the literature. But the preferred method of taking cocaine, from what I understand, was by sniffing it, snorting it, became very expensive, and they were desperate to find a way of packaging cocaine.
the legitimization of drug legalization almost certainly came from libertarian economists.
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Re: The Real Reason why Trump won

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Markk wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:18 pm
canpakes wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:07 pm

Maybe you’ve been lied to.

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From your link....

Contrary to media accounts, reported incidents declined over the same period in San Francisco (down 5 percent), even accounting for a large spike in 2021.


Most big box stores do not report it, they just pass the losses on, and lock stuff on.
I guess that your figures are made up, then.
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Re: The Real Reason why Trump won

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Gadianton wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:18 pm
Trump failed to plug the border for four years -- drugs still flowed in.
Check out the dramatic rise in fentanyl abuse during Trump’s last time in office, especially that huge spike during his last year.

Why didn’t Trump magically fix this the first time around?

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Re: The Real Reason why Trump won

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Ceeboo wrote:Obviously, you don't have to take pointers from me, but, for your benefit, you really should consider doing so. Among the many benefits you would receive (should you start taking said pointers from me) would be to break the self-imposed bondage that your mind is in - Imagine if you allowed your mind to be free.
You sure think highly of yourself. I mean, I can be arrogant about certain things I think I know about, but even in those areas, I'd never claim that another person should hope to obtain mental freedom by listening to me.
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Re: The Real Reason why Trump won

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Canpakes wrote:Check out the dramatic rise in fentanyl abuse during Trump’s last time in office, especially that huge spike during his last year.

Why didn’t Trump magically fix this the first time around?
That graph is insane. For those who believe the sitting president owns it, the opioid crisis was literally caused by Trump. Markk, why did your conservative ideology cause this opioid crisis between 2016 and 2020, when Trump was your president?
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