Should the Dehlin/Rosebud drama be deleted?

[jpatterson]

Here is what Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act says and it protects sites like this one

Thank you for cutting through the histrionics. Shades or the board being "at risk" is a red herring, which I expressed a while ago.

[Dr. Shades]

Everyone, thanks again for everything you have posted. I have read each one and done my best to digest them.

IMPORTANT: Rosebud is **NOT** in danger of being banned. No matter what happens to her megathread, she'll be just as welcome to keep participating here as anyone else.

SIDE NOTE: Mr. Dehlin has **NOT** threatened this board, legally or otherwise.

Considering everything that's been posted, and how relatively close the votes have been, I believe the proper and prudent action is to move Rosebud's megathread to the Telestial Forum, where personal attacks are allowed. Yes, I will consider allegations of illegal conduct as personal attacks, and since the target of said attacks is a poster here, those charges and the thread in which they reside can and should be reclassified as Telestial.

In order to avoid censoring her or curtailing her freedom of speech, she and everyone else will be able to continue to read and post in it. The difference is that only registered users--those with "skin in the game"--will be able to see it, no one else.

The next step will be to decide if this thread, too, should be moved to the Telestial Forum, since it refers to said attacks. For now, though, I think I'll leave it (i.e., THIS thread, not the megathread) here until participation in it ends, then move it.

Marcus and drumdude, hopefully you will now agree that the rules are being followed.

[canpakes]

Moving an ENTIRE 185-page thread to a less- or completely not visible place on the forum in response to one post people find objectionalbe, as Shades has suggested he is considering doing, is tantamount to censorship, on top of being complete overkill.

I don’t think that you can make a good case for that. Merely restating it doesn’t get you closer to the goal, either.

So why are we here giving our opinions?

Because you want to be.

As do you.

Yes.

Can I make you some coffee? It goes well with opinions.
: )

[drumdude]

Everyone, thanks again for everything you have posted. I have read each one and done my best to digest them.

IMPORTANT: Rosebud is **NOT** in danger of being banned. No matter what happens to her megathread, she'll be just as welcome to keep participating here as anyone else.

SIDE NOTE: Mr. Dehlin has **NOT** threatened this board, legally or otherwise.

Considering everything that's been posted, and how relatively close the votes have been, I believe the proper and prudent action is to move Rosebud's megathread to the Telestial Forum, where personal attacks are allowed. Yes, I will consider allegations of illegal conduct as personal attacks, and since the target of said attacks is a poster here, those charges and the thread in which they reside can and should be reclassified as Telestial.

In order to avoid censoring her or curtailing her freedom of speech, she and everyone else will be able to continue to read and post in it. The difference is that only registered users--those with "skin in the game"--will be able to see it, no one else.

The next step will be to decide if this thread, too, should be moved to the Telestial Forum, since it refers to said attacks. For now, though, I think I'll leave it (i.e., THIS thread, not the megathread) here until participation in it ends, then move it.

Marcus and drumdude, hopefully you will now agree that the rules are being followed.

I think you made the right call.

[IWMP]

Everyone, thanks again for everything you have posted. I have read each one and done my best to digest them.

IMPORTANT: Rosebud is **NOT** in danger of being banned. No matter what happens to her megathread, she'll be just as welcome to keep participating here as anyone else.

SIDE NOTE: Mr. Dehlin has **NOT** threatened this board, legally or otherwise.

Considering everything that's been posted, and how relatively close the votes have been, I believe the proper and prudent action is to move Rosebud's megathread to the Telestial Forum, where personal attacks are allowed. Yes, I will consider allegations of illegal conduct as personal attacks, and since the target of said attacks is a poster here, those charges and the thread in which they reside can and should be reclassified as Telestial.

In order to avoid censoring her or curtailing her freedom of speech, she and everyone else will be able to continue to read and post in it. The difference is that only registered users--those with "skin in the game"--will be able to see it, no one else.

The next step will be to decide if this thread, too, should be moved to the Telestial Forum, since it refers to said attacks. For now, though, I think I'll leave it (i.e., THIS thread, not the megathread) here until participation in it ends, then move it.

Marcus and drumdude, hopefully you will now agree that the rules are being followed.

This sounds very reasonable

[jpatterson]

posters like Rosebud, bent on defaming:

Again, it's only defamation if it's not true.

Rosebud will continue to say what she wants because she has evidence to support her accusations and she knows that John does not want to engage in a discovery process around this issue.

[jpatterson]

I believe the proper and prudent action is to move Rosebud's megathread to the Telestial Forum, where personal attacks are allowed. Yes, I will consider allegations of illegal conduct as personal attacks, and since the target of said attacks is a poster here, those charges and the thread in which they reside can and should be reclassified as Telestial.

I would request that personal attack threads directed at DCP be similarly moved.

[Dr. Shades]

I believe the proper and prudent action is to move Rosebud's megathread to the Telestial Forum, where personal attacks are allowed. Yes, I will consider allegations of illegal conduct as personal attacks, and since the target of said attacks is a poster here, those charges and the thread in which they reside can and should be reclassified as Telestial.

I would request that personal attack threads directed at DCP be similarly moved.

He's not a poster here.

Even so, allegations of CRIMINAL (as opposed to merely unethical) conduct on his part have been moved out of sight in the past.

[Shulem]

I believe the proper and prudent action is to move Rosebud's megathread to the Telestial Forum, where personal attacks are allowed.

Excellent choice. Moving it down into Telestial shows you have nothing to hide and are not scrambling and performing a coverup. Keep the cards on the table in front of everyone who has participated and also those who wish to view the game for themselves if they so choose to sign up for it.

Now, rest easier. You have nothing to fear.

[jpatterson]

He's not a poster here.

I appreciate the clarification. I was told by others that he is a poster here, so they must be mistaken.