PFLDO founding chapter (drones)

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Physics Guy wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:29 pm
Who said the one dimension was straight? Sometimes it goes down.

Explains a lot, actually, if you think about it.
Has to be at least two dimensional to exist depending on how thin you would consider to be taking up zero space.

Clarification... To exist as in take up space enough to be visible on any scale.
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Dwight wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:39 am
I saw two of the clearest videos of these drones and they were planes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/ ... _I've_seen/

We should be concerned that people living under flight paths are looking up and unable to recognize a plane in the sky.
There were a few images, and a short video, being circulated because they were taken by a professional photographer with a really good camera and lens.

Watching the video, it was immediately apparent to people who enjoy astronomy what the strange looking "drone" was. It was the star Sirius.

My personal fart-in-the-dark opinion is that there's a mixture of people seeing what's in the sky all of the time, and interpreting it to be "drones" because that's what the media and social conscious is conditioning them to see; and people with drones outfitting them to make them look bigger and flashier because stoking public panic on a shoestring budget has long been a national pastime.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:10 pm
My personal fart-in-the-dark opinion is.......
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Best thread ever.
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IWMP wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:51 pm
Physics Guy wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:29 pm
Who said the one dimension was straight? Sometimes it goes down.

Explains a lot, actually, if you think about it.
Has to be at least two dimensional to exist depending on how thin you would consider to be taking up zero space.

Clarification... To exist as in take up space enough to be visible on any scale.
People existing within this dimension like to live life on the edge.
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Preach it, brother.
I was a teenager before it was cool.
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According to Sandboxx, it's got to be this:

https://www.nartp.com/news-and-press-re ... -and-acea/

But at this point, it's unclear what's in need of explanation. More military bases have come forward and admitted to small drones buzzing their skies forever, which has set off some people.

But this case isn't about that, it's about large drone sightings, although the nature of those large drones has not been clear. Are they 6-ft quad copters or are they bus-sized fixed-wing drones? Both? And in either case, the claims say a) proper FAA lighting is used b) when approached, they are either outran, blocked by restricted air space, or their equipment malfunctions.
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This Joe Rogan clip is worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYQMMtPKT5E

The Ex Navy Pilot shoots down all of Joe's conspiracy nonsense. I was going to skip over this one, but since it's mentioned in the video and apparently Joe had been easily converted to the idea: there's a right-wing pro-Trump conspiracy theory out there about a loose Ukraine nuke that the drones are searching for. I know, just when you think people can't get any dumber, but every single last one of them voted for you-know-who so it goes with the territory.

What makes the clip worth watching in my view is that the pilot points out that the reason why they aren't being shot down or aggressively hacked is that unless there is reason to believe the drone is a threat or a foreign spy, they assume it's a civilian, and it requires a warrant (as I've said). And just because you're curious doesn't mean it's a threat. Joe is blown away by this. Well, I'm glad FINALLY someone brought this up. It may be the first instance of it I've seen. There are other podcast discussions that don't rise to the level of dumb that Joe does where for some reason, nobody on the panel has done any due diligence research on what the laws are for interacting with drones.

This omission alone goes a long way to fuel conspiracy arguments. Someone always says, "If I were to fly my drone over a military base I'd be thrown in prison for 10 years, the fact that the government has never brought one down proves that either they can't, or they are scared to; therefore it must be aliens."

If you breach Area 51, worst case scenario is a thousand dollar fine, but most likely private security will just escort you out. There is a guy who got raided for flying a drone over it, but he had a long history of spying on the place. So even though many of these places have "use of deadly force authorized," in practice that just doesn't happen. Military bases are for the most part, not very interesting. There are these things called satellites monitoring them constantly. The fact that a drone flies over one isn't a critical threat to national security.
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Did you guys see the bit about drones over Naval Weapons Station Earle? That's right in my home town. About a mile from the Quick Stop. :lol: Also saw there were drones over the Boy's home town right up the highway. And...Wright Patt closed for 4 hours to investigate drones?

Listen. Trump says he got the briefing and we're good. My money's on Trump. That is all.
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Maybe passage of HR 8610 has something to do with it. The bill seeks to give more powers to police the skies and monitoring.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/for ... ntensifies

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