Unelected President Musk?

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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:33 pm
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Yeah, Trump wants to trademark his policies and actions in govt. and the world. He won't tolerate Musk taking credit for anything he doesn't want a nd the divorce would be must see tv if it happens.
I think it will depend on what extent Musk is able to enrich Trump by dismantling government entities that are a thorn in both of their profiteering, and how well he is able to maximize the government funds smash-and-grab. With Trump, everything is transactional; and I think that can even potentially apply to his own ego.
You're probably right about that too. If there is anything more important to him than his ego, it is maximizing his wealth and power. That's the probably the biggest leverage Musk has over him. How can anyone with at least a semi-functional brain fail to see that all Trump really cares about is himself. He is a lame duck president who can't legally run for that office again (though I suspect he still would like to make his Presidency permanent somehow). He couldn't care less how many people he hurts or even kills, if necessary, to get his own way. I have no doubt he would like to have the same absolute power and control over the U.S. population that Kim Jong Un has over Korea and never have to worry about elections again. If he had his way, only his own death would end his Presidency.

I can't help but suspect that if he could establish a permanent unelected dynasty like that of the Kim dynasty in Korea, he would probably do it.
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My bet is that DOGE won't touch any contracts Musk has with the DOD or any other contracts he has with the Feds. Those will probably be deemed efficient and necessary.
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Gunnar wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2024 1:52 am
If there is anything more important to him than his ego, it is maximizing his wealth and power.
And avoiding incarceration.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:04 am
Gunnar wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2024 1:52 am
If there is anything more important to him than his ego, it is maximizing his wealth and power.
And avoiding incarceration.
Yes, that too. It is a crying shame that he is not already incarcerated! Those of us who are depending on social security and Medicare and ACA could be in great peril in the near future, along with all working-class people. Already, richest one percent of Americans has around 40% of all the wealth in the country, and the bottom 80% only controls 7% of the wealth. The average wealth of all those in that lower 80% could be doubled, leaving them with 14% of the total wealth, and the richest one percent with 26% of all the wealth, and they would still be wealthy beyond the realistic dreams of the vast majority of Americans. Why do they need even more wealth? Why is it even conscionable to continue to crave more and more wealth when one already has far, far more than any reasonable person needs to live comfortably? Elon Musk has, in effect, justified further impoverishing the poor, if that's what it takes to enable trillions in tax cuts for the wealthiest, who already have more wealth than they need or deserve.

Conservatives are fond of denouncing the idea of redistribution of wealth to help lower income folks who genuinely need help, but they are all for redistribution of wealth from the most impoverished of us to very wealthiest of us, who already have far more than they need!
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I wonder if those who voted for garbage pile and Elon were on board with their insistence to shut down the government in order eliminate the debt ceiling? I didn't know that's what you guys wanted, to increase the national debt as high as possible? Why would that even be necessary when Elon is going to cut spending in half?

Why does MAGA need spending to run hot? In order to give tax breaks to billionaires and large corporations. Maybe MAGA will get the best of both worlds, cut spending on entitlements, particularly anything for the poor but also keep the deficit growing so the uber rich don't have to pay taxes? The trickledown effect might work a little bit for heavy stock holders. The masses who voted for a garbage pile were once again saved by his inability to be the dictator that they hope him to be. Let's see if three years from now, that's still the case or if they will pay for their lack of moral judgement?
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Trump announced that his administration would begin dismantling the government of the United States on January 20, 2025.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/Trump- ... e-election
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:04 am
Gunnar wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2024 1:52 am
If there is anything more important to him than his ego, it is maximizing his wealth and power.
And avoiding incarceration.
Trump could have avoided jail and incarceration by never coming down the escalator and threatening the political establishment. Unlike the Clintons and the Obamas who became insanely wealthy only after leaving office, the deep state nearly succeeded in bankrupting Trump. Taking on this fight and winning was not something Trump ever did for himself. Only a masochist would take on a fight like this in pursuit of his own self interest. Trump did it for his supporters, and unlike my avatar, against all odds, he won. Donald Trump is a modern day George Washington and nothing less.

And for what the deep state did to Carter Paige, Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, Steve Bannon, Peter Navarro and every other political prisoner, they need to be held accountable for all of it because they obviously have not repented and will do it all over again when they get an opportunity to do so.
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Moksha wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:58 pm
Trump announced that his administration would begin dismantling the government of the United States on January 20, 2025.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/Trump- ... e-election
Gotta love the tanning bed president.
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:32 am
[Gotta love the tanning bed president.
Trump uses a spray-on face tan.
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