Was the "I'm a Mormon" Campaign a 'major victory for Satan'?

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Re: Was the "I'm a Mormon" Campaign a 'major victory for Satan'?

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We must remember the time Nelson gave his impassioned plea to abandon the Mormon name and Hinckley announced he was proud to be a Mormon. This stuck in Nelson's craw and it festered for many decades. Finally, the Great Prevaricator was in the position of Church President and he announced that the name Mormon was of Satan and that the Saints had embraced the Book of Satan.

Of course, the Mormons all agreed with Nelson.
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Only RFM and Bill Reel could name these Mormons from the past!!!
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We know from Edward Kimball's book about his father, SWK, that the 1978 'revelation' to allow black men the priesthood and blacks entry into the temple and ordinances that Mark E. Peterson and Bruce R. McConkie were hold outs that had to be finagled. I am aware of no in-fighting in the big 15 that pitted Nelson against proud-to-be-a-Mormon Hinckley or the I'm a Mormon campaign that ran for the last 8 years of Monson's reign. Has dissent become frowned upon so heavily in more recent decades that all Nelson could really do in the three decades before his ascension was to bite his lip, seethe, and bide his time until he got to dictate that the moniker Mormon should not be applied to the LDS Church or its members?
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Moksha wrote:
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Only RFM and Bill Reel could name these Mormons from the past!!!
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My pet theory is Nelson got snubbed at some event, in his work, or heard people talking behind his back as "the Mormon guy" in a negative way. I remember lessons being peppered with, but can't call to mind any specific ones now, so many stories of Mormons who refused to drink alcohol despite the cost. Some times it worked out for them positively and sticking to their beliefs was praised in the end and they were later respected, other times it was just showing that the accolades of the world are not worth compromising your values. Nelson loves being the surgeon bishop/stake president, man of respect inside the Mormon sphere, but maybe outside the bubble it may have worked against him, or just not fed his ego the same. Maybe he feels rightly or wrongly that it cost him some opportunity.

It is only the weirdos and ultra devout who care, at least the few boomers I have talked about it with have no problem with being Mormon and think it is silly for things like The Mormon Tabernacle Choir.

My guess is Nelson is at least self-aware enough to know revealing the story behind his hate of the nickname Mormon would just further prove his small and petty ego.
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It is now The Tabernacle Choir at Temple Square since the word Mormon comes from the devil.

Mormons just believe and do what they are told even though it means they are now without a name. However, it is thought to be a net positive since they can more easily infiltrate the normals of the world and seek to convert them to their nameless belief.
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I might have become a football fan if I could have kept on rooting for the Washington Football Team. So I wonder if the LDS church could rename itself the Utah Religious Denomination.
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Dwight wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:52 am
My pet theory is Nelson got snubbed at some event, in his work, or heard people talking behind his back as "the Mormon guy" in a negative way. I remember lessons being peppered with, but can't call to mind any specific ones now, so many stories of Mormons who refused to drink alcohol despite the cost. Some times it worked out for them positively and sticking to their beliefs was praised in the end and they were later respected, other times it was just showing that the accolades of the world are not worth compromising your values. Nelson loves being the surgeon bishop/stake president, man of respect inside the Mormon sphere, but maybe outside the bubble it may have worked against him, or just not fed his ego the same. Maybe he feels rightly or wrongly that it cost him some opportunity.

It is only the weirdos and ultra devout who care, at least the few boomers I have talked about it with have no problem with being Mormon and think it is silly for things like The Mormon Tabernacle Choir.

My guess is Nelson is at least self-aware enough to know revealing the story behind his hate of the nickname Mormon would just further prove his small and petty ego.
Just for reference, Nelson first broached the topic of the mane of the Church in 1990. Here is a link to that Conference talk.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... d?lang=eng

He’d have to wait 28 more years before his colleagues could no longer ignore him. The question for me is why Nelson lacked the courage to stand up against Hinckley and Munson when they were leading the Church astray? Why didn’t he resign his calling in protest? Basically he comes across as a corporate yes man who has now got a chance to pander to his pet whims.
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I Have Questions wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:42 am
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Just for reference, Nelson first broached the topic of the mane of the Church in 1990. Here is a link to that Conference talk.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... d?lang=eng

He’d have to wait 28 more years before his colleagues could no longer ignore him. The question for me is why Nelson lacked the courage to stand up against Hinckley and Munson when they were leading the Church astray? Why didn’t he resign his calling in protest? Basically he comes across as a corporate yes man who has now got a chance to pander to his pet whims.
I wonder how many corporate yes men there are in the current Q15 who are pandering to Nelson's pet whims, hoping to have the chance to do likewise for their own whims.
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malkie wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:13 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:42 am
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Just for reference, Nelson first broached the topic of the mane of the Church in 1990. Here is a link to that Conference talk.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... d?lang=eng

He’d have to wait 28 more years before his colleagues could no longer ignore him. The question for me is why Nelson lacked the courage to stand up against Hinckley and Munson when they were leading the Church astray? Why didn’t he resign his calling in protest? Basically he comes across as a corporate yes man who has now got a chance to pander to his pet whims.
I wonder how many corporate yes men there are in the current Q15 who are pandering to Nelson's pet whims, hoping to have the chance to do likewise for their own whims.
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