Historicity of _American Primeval_
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Historicity of _American Primeval_
Y'all may find this discussion illuminating...
https://www.youtube.com/live/6mcd7FNeSv ... _z2sZbt4k9
https://www.youtube.com/live/6mcd7FNeSv ... _z2sZbt4k9
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Re: Historicity of _American Primeval_
Please, sir, visit us more often. Your contributions to exposing the truth about Mormonism are legendary.
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Re: Historicity of _American Primeval_
What are they key things you think it illuminates?Brent Metcalfe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:23 pmY'all may find this discussion illuminating...
https://www.youtube.com/live/6mcd7FNeSv ... _z2sZbt4k9
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: Historicity of _American Primeval_
You’re very kind. My time is limited given other projects. A couple of weeks ago Mormon Stories and Mormonism Live collaborated on a podcast interviewing me...Fence Sitter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:01 pmPlease, sir, visit us more often. Your contributions to exposing the truth about Mormonism are legendary.
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Re: Historicity of _American Primeval_
Pretty much everything... both Barbara and Darren lay out in detail where the TV series goes astray historically.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:53 pmWhat are they key things you think it illuminates?Brent Metcalfe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:23 pmY'all may find this discussion illuminating...
https://www.youtube.com/live/6mcd7FNeSv ... _z2sZbt4k9
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Re: Historicity of _American Primeval_
I don’t think the intention was to produce a historically accurate documentary. The article I link to below gives an insight into what the director and producers were trying to achieve, and how and why they produced scenes inspired by real events.Brent Metcalfe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:11 pmPretty much everything... both Barbara and Darren lay out in detail where the TV series goes astray historically.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:53 pmWhat are they key things you think it illuminates?
https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/ ... -explained
https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/ ... lor-kitschBerg and Smith worked with cultural consultants to depict both the peoples and the period as accurately as possible, while taking creative license to center the story around the fictional Sara (Gilpin) and Devin (Preston Mota), a mother and son hurriedly journeying across the frontier to Utah, where the boy’s father lives.
Were people expecting a Discovery Channel documentary?
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: Historicity of _American Primeval_
I Have Questions wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:30 pm
Were people expecting a Discovery Channel documentary?
Won’t someone think of the good name of Brigham Young??“DP responding to Billy Shears” wrote:BS:A fictional story that is so wide of actual historical accuracy and, accordingly, so harmful to the reputation of real people (and a real people) should probably use fictional names“Billy Shears” wrote:Dr. Park says the show isn’t trying to be accurate--it’s using historical people and events to tell a fictional story that explores a broader question of humanity.

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Re: Historicity of _American Primeval_
FairMormon has released a "fact-checking" webpage dedicated to the series:
https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/hom ... n-primeval
I'm eager to watch the show when I have some spare time. I've skimmed through the Mormon Stories video in the OP, and googled a bit about the show.
I have to admit it seems like Lindsay Hansen Park may have allowed the show to portray early Mormonism as much more violent than it actually was. At one point in the Mormon Stories video above (1 hour 10 minutes in), they're even laughing at how historically inaccurate it is.
I hope we get to hear from Lindsay herself soon.
https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/hom ... n-primeval
I'm eager to watch the show when I have some spare time. I've skimmed through the Mormon Stories video in the OP, and googled a bit about the show.
I have to admit it seems like Lindsay Hansen Park may have allowed the show to portray early Mormonism as much more violent than it actually was. At one point in the Mormon Stories video above (1 hour 10 minutes in), they're even laughing at how historically inaccurate it is.
I hope we get to hear from Lindsay herself soon.
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Re: Historicity of _American Primeval_
Will have to take this a piece at a time. So far the message seems to be that the horror of the act was significantly worse in real life and the movie downplayed it, and the movie overplayed the involvement of the Indians. Seems like the Church got off easy.
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Re: Historicity of _American Primeval_
That American Primeval was a fictional story based loosely on a few historical events (so it does have a leg up on the Book of Mormon which contained no historical events).I Have Questions wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:53 pmWhat are they key things you think it illuminates?Brent Metcalfe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:23 pmY'all may find this discussion illuminating...
https://www.youtube.com/live/6mcd7FNeSv ... _z2sZbt4k9
This will be heyday for Mormon apologists to assert that their fictional story was better because it allowed their prophet Joseph Smith to act caddishly, and their Church to become the richest in the world while remaining tax-free and controlling the lives of millions of adherents.
Brent is right about the illumination bit.
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