And as usual with almost anything he says, it is filled with willful ignorance and numerous outrageous lies. I am particularly galled by the highly defamatory claim that California is doing virtually nothing to halt or mitigate the disaster now raging in Southern California. What a horrible insult to the highly dedicated and skilled firefighters and first responders working night and day to contend with the disaster!canpakes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:38 pm.
Here we go! The new President has given us a roaring Inauguration Day speech that promises much, including a pony for almost everyone, with that list also topped with the required bucketful of pandering needed by so many fragile MAGA egos. Here’s the transcript:
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No precept or claim is more suspect or more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
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It’s a shame that he felt the need to include the grievances, weird MAGA pandering, and threats to potential allies. Trump is not a man who knows how unite people for the right reason, or how to prompt their better angels.Gunnar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:07 pmAnd as usual with almost anything he says, it is filled with willful ignorance and numerous outrageous lies. I am particularly galled by the highly defamatory claim that California is doing virtually nothing to halt or mitigate the disaster now raging in Southern California. What a horrible insult to the highly dedicated and skilled firefighters and first responders working night and day to contend with the disaster!
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When a president promises to abridge an enumerated constitutional right via an executive order, how does that align with the oath he just took to protect, and defend the constitution?
First he says he'll overturn legislation re tiktok via executive order, now he is promising to abridge the 14th amendment.
First he says he'll overturn legislation re tiktok via executive order, now he is promising to abridge the 14th amendment.
How fascism starts:
...The next step is to fascinate fools and muzzle the intelligent, by emotional excitement on the one hand and terrorism on the other.”
— Bertrand Russell, Freedom and Government (1940).
...The next step is to fascinate fools and muzzle the intelligent, by emotional excitement on the one hand and terrorism on the other.”
— Bertrand Russell, Freedom and Government (1940).
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It doesn’t.¥akaSteelhead wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:23 pmWhen a president promises to abridge an enumerated constitutional right via an executive order, how does that align with the oath he just took to protect, and defend the constitution?
The Constitution is meaningless to a man who manipulates the exaggerated grievances of others in order to further his own financial or political gain.
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An even bigger shame is how many Americans still can't see through his glaringly obvious, pathological dishonesty and self-serving corruption and narcissism, and how great and immediate a danger he poses to democracy and many of the liberties that most Americans hold dear. He still seems hellbent on turning our nation into a doctrinaire theocracy with himself as the main object of our worship!canpakes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:22 pmIt’s a shame that he felt the need to include the grievances, weird MAGA pandering, and threats to potential allies. Trump is not a man who knows how unite people for the right reason, or how to prompt their better angels.Gunnar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:07 pmAnd as usual with almost anything he says, it is filled with willful ignorance and numerous outrageous lies. I am particularly galled by the highly defamatory claim that California is doing virtually nothing to halt or mitigate the disaster now raging in Southern California. What a horrible insult to the highly dedicated and skilled firefighters and first responders working night and day to contend with the disaster!
Well put! He hardly even tries to hide that he doesn't really give a damn about defending and upholding the Constitution whenever it conflicts with whatever he thinks will benefit himself or his agenda. I don't think he really believes in the First Amendment guarantee of freedom of speech unless it pertains to his freedom to lie outrageously and often with complete impunity and no serious fact checking. I don't think he will hesitate to attempt to censor, sue or even prosecute any individuals or media who try to expose, and fact check his innumerable, self-serving lies.canpakes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:25 pmIt doesn’t.¥akaSteelhead wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:23 pmWhen a president promises to abridge an enumerated constitutional right via an executive order, how does that align with the oath he just took to protect, and defend the constitution?
The Constitution is meaningless to a man who manipulates the exaggerated grievances of others in order to further his own financial or political gain.
No precept or claim is more suspect or more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
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In a sane world he would be facing impeachment by next week. But the GOP has decided to ignore the guardrails.
Now we have an executive order putting a stay on a law Supreme Court just rulled lawful a couple days back, combined with talk about nationalizing a private entity.
Executive overreach and nationalizing assets all in one go.
Is Congress going to bend over and let Trump walk all over their authority?
Now we have an executive order putting a stay on a law Supreme Court just rulled lawful a couple days back, combined with talk about nationalizing a private entity.
Executive overreach and nationalizing assets all in one go.
Is Congress going to bend over and let Trump walk all over their authority?
How fascism starts:
...The next step is to fascinate fools and muzzle the intelligent, by emotional excitement on the one hand and terrorism on the other.”
— Bertrand Russell, Freedom and Government (1940).
...The next step is to fascinate fools and muzzle the intelligent, by emotional excitement on the one hand and terrorism on the other.”
— Bertrand Russell, Freedom and Government (1940).
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Trump obviously wants them to. Hopefully there are enough Republican Congress critters with enough spine and sense to limit his nefarious designs.¥akaSteelhead wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:39 amNow we have an executive order putting a stay on a law the Supreme Court just rulled lawful a couple days back, combined with talk about nationalizing a private entity.
Executive overreach and nationalizing assets all in one go.
Is Congress going to bend over and let Trump walk all over their authority?
No precept or claim is more suspect or more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
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Perhaps the first of Trump’s official acts: pardon trespassers and rioters, but only if they support him politically.
The List on page 1 has been updated to reflect this.
- Wall Street JournalPresident Trump indicated he granted full pardons to nearly all defendants involved in the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol. Earlier Monday, at a rally at Capital One Arena, Trump said he planned to sign pardons for “J6 hostages” tonight to “get them out.”
The List on page 1 has been updated to reflect this.
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In a sane world, he would have been convicted and removed from office with his first impeachment for trying to blackmail Ukraine's President into fabricating dirt on Joe Biden, and certainly for his attempted insurrection in 2020. What Trump has done is worse than what Nixon would certainly have been impeached for, had he not decided to resign first. Why are there no longer enough Republicans with both enough integrity and backbone to oppose Trump's idiocy and corruption? Why are there insane billionaires for whom no amount of material wealth and power is enough to appease them and make them happy, no matter many people they have to hurt or impoverish to further increase it?¥akaSteelhead wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 12:48 amIn a sane world he would be facing impeachment by next week. But the GOP has decided to ignore the guardrails.
No precept or claim is more suspect or more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
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Was Elon Musk starting to give Sieg Heils in public part of the Trump List?
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