Historicity of _American Primeval_

[Dr. Shades]

Is "DJT disease" a creative way of saying "Trump Derangement Syndrome?"

No, it is a parody of TDS and meant to mean the exact opposite as I believed you to be a Trump supporter. At least to a certain extent. If I am wrong then I'll offer a proper apology.

You’re quite wrong.

[Gadianton]

drumdude,

I'm sure he does know better, but as a rabble rouser and rhetorician he'll never let it go. Hugh Nibley warned us of this; the rise of sophistry and the decline of everything else.

[dantana]

You’re quite wrong.

My apologies.

Now, I wanted to keep fighting, since finding twelve peers of Mr. Dr. Shades would be neart[sic]impossible. (Grammar o.c.d., acronym-o-phobia, DJT disease . . .

Was that that was funny.

[dantana]

It was a TV series based loosely on historical events, I am not sure what the big deal is. It is no different than the loosely based LDS produced movies, and in fact closer to historic accuracy, especially by costume and the wild nature of the frontier, and not a Pollyanna version of frontier folks and life, in freshly washed clean clothes and nice hair, speaking like they were in a road show play.

You brought up the Outlaw Josey Wales. That is a great example of another "western" loosely based on an actual historical figure with exaggerated events. The real Josey Wales was Bill Wilson " The Bush Wacker." He killed several people by bush whacking them. He died by being bush whacked by fellow raiders stealing his wagon load of apples. In the final scene of the Movie, Josey Wales is introduced as "Mr. Wilson."

That said it would be great to see a well done historical accurate movie of the MMM, and billed as such. I would also like to see a well done movie about Mark Hoffman, The final days of Joseph in Nauvoo, and I am sure we could think of several others.

I am is denial about the Ram's losing, so close.

Josey Wales has always been one of my go-to movies as it really only has a few - ain't gonna happen scenes. I have it in my top 50, but may have to demote it now hearing of the back story. My movie o.c.d. showing up again. Such as, I used to like most Mel Gibson movies but have moved them into the dust bin since he revealed himself as a racist prick. Well, except for maybe 'Road Warrior'.

Yeah, the Rams are my #2 team after Seattle and any team with a Oregon Duck QB. Chargers, Broncos, Commanders. Matt Staf. is def. one of the kewl kids though too, and would have loved to have seen him shut up those goddamn Philadelphia fans.

[I Have Questions]

Whilst Peterson continues his pearl clutching about the show and concentrates his attention on things in it that aren’t 100% historical fact despite knowing that the show doesn’t claim to be historical fact, and despite knowing that the Producer of American Primeval spent significant time researching the Mountain Meadows Massacre with a Church source that Peterson suggests people use to find out about the actual event (Richard Turley), many many viewers are enjoying the fictionalised western series in huge numbers.

American Primeval, Netflix's new historical drama, has everyone buzzing. The western miniseries scored a whopping 10.4 million views to snag the number two spot on Netflix's English-language TV chart. Harlan Coben's Missing You continues to be king of the chart with a viewership of 15.2 million, but American Primeval is giving it a run for its money.
The series is set during the 1857 Utah War and fuses history with old-fashioned fiction to keep you glued to the screen. The show, which opened on January 9, 2025, is doing so well that it has become one of the most-watched Netflix historical dramas in a while, up there with The Night Agent. And it's not just a hit in the US.

https://www.soapcentral.com/shows/ameri ... issing-you

More people have seen American Primeval than the number who show up for Sacrament meeting on any given Sunday. Twice as many! The success also shows that there is interest in seeing programmes about Utah in the 1800’s, so lack of viewer interest isn’t an excuse that the Afore can turn to for an explanation of 6DIA’s dismal failure.

American Primeval delves into a wild chapter of American history, namely the 1857 Utah War, and the show is a hit because it seamlessly blends facts and fiction to depict what it was like to live through that intense era.

Peterson would do well to study the success of American Primeval before he inflicts his third steaming pile of movie dung on donor’s wallets.

[I Have Questions]

Update:

The western miniseries was the most-watched TV series on the streamer last week with 14.3M views from January 13 to 19, up from 10.4M in the first few days post-debut. That’s the Narcos executive producer and showrunner’s sixth series to reach No. 1 on Netflix’s Global Top 10, following Griselda, Painkiller, The Watcher, True Story, and Narcos: Mexico Season 3.

https://deadline.com/2025/01/american-p ... 236262592/

24.7 million people in a couple of weeks. 6DIA made revenues of $390,000 in 74 days.

[drumdude]

It’s been 15 days since American Primeval released, and as of this writing: 0 Mormons have been subjected to violence, arson, murder, or tar and feathering over it.

I will be sure to keep this updated periodically.

[Everybody Wang Chung]

From the Trib:

"The real massacre was ‘so much more brutal’ — ‘American Primeval’ and the truth about Mountain Meadows"

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/01 ... n-meadows/

[Moksha]

The Western miniseries was the most-watched TV series on the streamer last week with 14.3M views from January 13 to 19, up from 10.4M in the first few days post-debut.

Not the Saints: They shut their eyes and turned their brains off. They will remain comatose until next Sunday. Apologists will fulfill an even longer mission of brain inactivity.

[dantana]

It would be interesting to see an ancestor descendant of someone on that Francher party wagon train sue the church for reparations.