Caroline Kennedy's Warning about Her Cousin, RFKjr

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Caroline Kennedy's Warning about Her Cousin, RFKjr

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Lawrence: Caroline Kennedy invokes her father Pres. Kennedy to condemn RFK Jr.’s nomination to HHS
MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell details how Caroline Kennedy’s condemnation of RFK Jr. is the “most important” public statement made about any Trump nominee in which she urged senators to reject him as unfit and argued that her father and uncles “would be unanimously disgusted” by the idea of RFK Jr. leading the Department of Health and Human Services.
I, for one, certainly agree with her warning about RFKjr. Trump's choice of this man indicates that he couldn't care less whether his appointees have the competence and intelligence and integrity to do the job, only whether they are loyal to him above all else. I hope her comments will be sufficient to cause even the MAGA Republican Senators to vote against his nomination. It is very telling that the rest of the Kennedy clan is as horrified about him becoming the next HHS Secretary as anyone else who values integrity, competence and scientific literacy. I fear, though, that the Republicans are too cowardly to oppose Trump, despite the overwhelming evidence of RFKjr's unfitness for the job.
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RFK Jr was a lifelong Democrat, clearly, and remained loyal to the party until the leaders at the top completely disregarded him in the last 18 months. They manipulated the primaries to undermine him, filed lawsuits to exclude him from ballots, and tarnished his reputation.

Let's discuss the facts! Elon was aligned with the Democrats until the progressives became extreme in their views. Identical for other billionaires! Similarly, this applies to the most prominent podcaster globally, Joe Rogan. If Democrats weren't so self-absorbed, they would have found a way to keep Tulsi Gabbard in the party. However, they regarded her as inferior simply because she refused to support the progressive narrative without critically examining their actions. The loss of these influential individuals can be entirely attributed to the actions of the Democrats.

And here’s the most unfortunate aspect! John Fetterman is nearing a departure from the party. In the coming year, I believe Fetterman will depart from the party and align himself with the Republicans, as he perceives a sense of disdain from the Democrats for his willingness to collaborate with Trump on various issues he is advocating. Do you realize that if we lose Fetterman, the 2026 and particularly the 2028 election will be a lost cause for the Democrats? Fetterman is greatly respected in Pennsylvania and will be welcomed warmly by Republicans in the state. Winning Pennsylvania in the 2028 election seems impossible if Fetterman switches to the Republican party.

However, that will not stop Democrats from criticizing him, they will remain committed to the progressive ideology, often expressing frustration with the American public for being too uninformed to recognize that progressivism is the path ahead. They believe that if people were only more enlightened, they would align with the progressive agenda and cast their votes accordingly. However, that is not how life operates, except within a religious framework.

The quicker the Democrats recognize that the American public has shifted away from the negativity associated with progressivism, the more advantageous it will be for us in the forthcoming elections. To be clear, RFKjr aligns himself with Trump due to the actions taken by the Democrats. That is indeed a fact. If you don't accept that fact, it only reinforces how right I am about progressivism being driven by a group of narcissists.
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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:53 pm
RFK Jr was a lifelong Democrat, clearly, and remained loyal to the party until the leaders at the top completely disregarded him in the last 18 months. They manipulated the primaries to undermine him, filed lawsuits to exclude him from ballots, and tarnished his reputation.

Let's discuss the facts! Elon was aligned with the Democrats until the progressives became extreme in their views. Identical for other billionaires! Similarly, this applies to the most prominent podcaster globally, Joe Rogan. If Democrats weren't so self-absorbed, they would have found a way to keep Tulsi Gabbard in the party. However, they regarded her as inferior simply because she refused to support the progressive narrative without critically examining their actions. The loss of these influential individuals can be entirely attributed to the actions of the Democrats.

And here’s the most unfortunate aspect! John Fetterman is nearing a departure from the party. In the coming year, I believe Fetterman will depart from the party and align himself with the Republicans, as he perceives a sense of disdain from the Democrats for his willingness to collaborate with Trump on various issues he is advocating. Do you realize that if we lose Fetterman, the 2026 and particularly the 2028 election will be a lost cause for the Democrats? Fetterman is greatly respected in Pennsylvania and will be welcomed warmly by Republicans in the state. Winning Pennsylvania in the 2028 election seems impossible if Fetterman switches to the Republican party.

However, that will not stop Democrats from criticizing him, they will remain committed to the progressive ideology, often expressing frustration with the American public for being too uninformed to recognize that progressivism is the path ahead. They believe that if people were only more enlightened, they would align with the progressive agenda and cast their votes accordingly. However, that is not how life operates, except within a religious framework.

The quicker the Democrats recognize that the American public has shifted away from the negativity associated with progressivism, the more advantageous it will be for us in the forthcoming elections. To be clear, RFKjr aligns himself with Trump due to the actions taken by the Democrats. That is indeed a fact. If you don't accept that fact, it only reinforces how right I am about progressivism being driven by a group of narcissists.
I would much rather have John McCain, Mitt Romney, and even George W Bush running the republican party than this clown show of Joe Rogan, RFK, and Elon Musk.

They aren’t the result of Democrats mistakes. They’re the result of having no morals and principles, and the damage they’re doing to our country will echo for generations.

These new Republicans don’t even remember what their party stood for anymore. They aren’t serious, but they don’t care. They just know how to rile up an undereducated base with inane social media posts.
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Wow. Watch this questioning of RFKJr. Watch RFKJr stumble and stammer in response.

Sen. Bennet Confronts RFK Jr. With His Own Words
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nez0el_XXTw
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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:53 pm
If Democrats weren't so self-absorbed, they would have found a way to keep Tulsi Gabbard in the party.
Why bother?

At one time, I pitched Tulsi Gabbard as a future Presidential hopeful. That post was quite a few years back and long before she inserted herself into consideration for that job.

Since then, she left the Democratic Party because she believes, in part, that they are going to start World War 3, and that they represent the "powerful elite," over the people.

She has since joined up with a self-professed billionaire with a white-collar crimes + sexual abuse rap sheet, who has lifted the embargo on sending 2000 lb bombs to Israel, has advocated kicking all of the Palestinians out of Gaza, has threatened to take two other countries by force if they don’t surrender their territory, and has initiated two crypto meme-coin scams in the last month with millionaire cryptocurrency friends, aligned himself with other ‘powerful elite’ billionaires like Peter Thiel and Jeff Bezos, and has placed Elon Musk at the helm of a department arguably tasked with deciding what government services should be disposed of, ‘common people’ be damned.

I can no longer vouch for Gabbard’s sensibility. : D

And that’s a lot more than I can say for RFK’s.
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canpakes wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:58 pm
Why bother?
Your response illustrates a significant reason why Democrats will struggle to secure victories in 2026 and 2028.

Will your feelings about Fetterman change if he departs from the party? Because he is already nearly completely gone. He finds himself in a situation where, should he change parties, he would be welcomed with enthusiasm. He is situated in the most crucial state in America regarding presidential elections.

But does it really matter, right? If someone disagrees with the progressive narrative, they must be ignorant!
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:42 pm
Wow. Watch this questioning of RFKJr. Watch RFKJr stumble and stammer in response.

Sen. Bennet Confronts RFK Jr. With His Own Words
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nez0el_XXTw
Trump is paying lip service to RFK since RFK probably steered a few hundred thousand votes his way but I think he'll fire him *if* he gets confirmed within 6 months. And it won't have one thing to do with RFK's terrible views or incompetence. Instead it'll come down to Trump disliking RFK's voice because it goes against his ideas about what people on TV should look and sound like.
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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:53 pm
The quicker the Democrats recognize that the American public has shifted away from the negativity associated with progressivism, the more advantageous it will be for us in the forthcoming elections. To be clear, RFKjr aligns himself with Trump due to the actions taken by the Democrats. That is indeed a fact. If you don't accept that fact, it only reinforces how right I am about progressivism being driven by a group of narcissists.
What "progressive" ideas proposed by Democrats do you find so objectionable and terrifying? Why are you so seemingly terrified of the very concept of "progress?"

Have you read the 2024 Democratic platform that we have referred you to numerous times? I found nothing in there that would be terrifying or objectionable to any reasonable and well-informed person. Can you find anything in there that any knowledgeable and reasonable person should object to or be alarmed about?

I still believe that the Democrats lost much of their support because they cravenly backed away somewhat from some of their more progressive ideals of which the majority of Americans approved, like more comprehensive universal healthcare and more humanitarian concern for the plight of Gazan civilians, especially women and children, subjected to the unnecessarily extreme cruelty of Israeli military actions against them.

The fact remains that even some top-ranked Democrat leaders are unduly influenced or intimidated by wealthy and conservative corporate donors and, perhaps somewhat, even by the vindictive threats of MAGA extremists.
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Bond wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:25 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:42 pm
Wow. Watch this questioning of RFKJr. Watch RFKJr stumble and stammer in response.

Sen. Bennet Confronts RFK Jr. With His Own Words
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nez0el_XXTw
Trump is paying lip service to RFK since RFK probably steered a few hundred thousand votes his way but I think he'll fire him *if* he gets confirmed within 6 months. And it won't have one thing to do with RFK's terrible views or incompetence. Instead it'll come down to Trump disliking RFK's voice because it goes against his ideas about what people on TV should look and sound like.
And because RFK is basically pro-choice on abortion and women's health issues, which is one of the few good things about him.
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Re: Caroline Kennedy's Warning about Her Cousin, RFKjr

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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:55 pm
canpakes wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:58 pm
Why bother?
Your response illustrates a significant reason why Democrats will struggle to secure victories in 2026 and 2028.
I doubt that my response illustrates that.
Will your feelings about Fetterman change if he departs from the party? Because he is already nearly completely gone. He finds himself in a situation where, should he change parties, he would be welcomed with enthusiasm. He is situated in the most crucial state in America regarding presidential elections.
If Fetterman’s priorities or ideological leanings move along the scale of political possibilities, then he should align with whatever party he believes will best serve that change. Like how Bernie usually caucuses with Democrats, right?

Changing an entire party’s platform to suit the whims of a single man is something that I’ve only seen Republicans do lately, with their recent path proclaiming that their platform is whatever Donald Trump wants.
But does it really matter, right? If someone disagrees with the progressive narrative, they must be ignorant!
You still haven’t been able to point to what it is within the current Democratic Party platform that you object to, and your opinion on the ignorance of opposing viewpoints is yours to own.

What do you believe in?
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