FAFO v. Empathy

[canpakes]

I watched the video, and what struck me most is how misinformed her perspective is on the meaning of "Woke."

Nah, she’s got it right.

[canpakes]

I suppose you could read into it as aiming a dig indirectly at the Orange Money Grubber. But really she is just saying that she’d like people to stick together in times of trouble and hardship, be nicer to each other, and that we should all give a damn about each other whatever comes our way.

I don’t see it reaches the level of a Trump Takedown. It’s just a statement of nice sentiments.

Agreed; and her comments should be given serious consideration, beginning at 1:30, and 1:50 when she delves further into empathy.

Jane is a historically controversial figure, but she’s making good sense here.

[Doctor Steuss]

"FAFO" = ?

F*ck Around and Find Out (Edit: "Celestial Kingdom" should be the letters "C" and "K," but 'tism gonna 'tism.)

In the past, it was kind of a general term for people who were feeling a bit too big for their britches, and tried to fight the wrong person only to get thoroughly man-handled. Now, it's largely adopted as a way to bypass empathy for all of the Trump supporters being directly harmed by his policies and actions. It's become shorthand for "I never thought the leopards would eat my face, when I voted for the leopard face-eating party."

The farmers who are losing their family farms, the small businesses not able to afford the tariffs, the federal employees losing their jobs, power bills skyrocketing, etc., that voted for Trump are generally just met with comments of "FAFO" instead of empathy.


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General thoughts on Empathy:

Even though "It's not a problem, unless it happens to me, and then how dare someone let it happen to me" is the basis of the Republican ethos, I don't think that means empathy should be abandoned. There's a wealth of research that Republican voters tend to be cognitively impaired and have lower IQs. People don't choose to be cognitively impaired, and I personally don't think joy in their self-induced misery is appropriate. This is one of the reasons I don't hate RFK. It's not his fault he's unable to understand even basic abstracts of studies. It's not his fault he doesn't have the ability to recognize he's incapable of understanding rudimentary medical science. It's also not the fault of people who aren't smart enough to realize he's a moron.

[Molok]

"FAFO" = ?

Trump has appropriated the FAFO from the progressives on TikTok, using it to articulate his position in the presidency while the Democrats remain outside of it. Once again, he has transformed a progressive talking point, amplifying it and bringing it into the public eye in a way that the progressives could never have imagined for one of their outlandish movements. Here are several instances of how Trump is reshaping the meaning of FAFO.

easy, you still can't figure out what woke means, don't worry your pretty little head trying to figure out what progressives think, you'll just end up giving yourself a headache.

[Markk]

I suppose you could read into it as aiming a dig indirectly at the Orange Money Grubber. But really she is just saying that she’d like people to stick together in times of trouble and hardship, be nicer to each other, and that we should all give a damn about each other whatever comes our way.

I don’t see it reaches the level of a Trump Takedown. It’s just a statement of nice sentiments.

Who did you see that the empathy she championed should be directed to? People that disagree with her and I suppose with right wing ideologies? Those she feels are marginalized, the girl that might cut herself? Or characters from film, either fictional or non fictional?

Like any good hermeneutics, at least in my opinion, one of the first things to do is understand who the audience is. She was clear that the audience was actors and actresses and that they, I assume Hollywood, needs a big tent, and they need to open the doors for communications.

My point is that there was a lot going on in her speech, and I have no idea what her real point was beyond and emotional speech with no real specific target and certainly void of the issues the are prevalent in or country today. Her speech here is similar to Kamala Harris' campaign plan....just an emotional speech with no real answers.

I heard nothing that could be remotely be construed as a Trump Takedown, in fact just the opposite in that Trump is doing something, while Jane was just giving a well rehearsed dramatic speech to a bunch of actors in Beverly Hills just 45 minutes away from skid row. Where the real tents are.

https://www.kcrw.com/news/shows/press-p ... c/skid-row

[Jersey Girl]

Gentle reminder. The topic isn't the title of the video in question. Here's the title of this topic and questions posed.

FAFO v. Empathy

See Jane. See Jane stand and deliver. Do you agree or disagree with her advice? Her challenge to enlarge the tent? for what it's worth I agree wholeheartedly with her. Reflecting on what form my own protest takes. If you're in direct opposition to the activity of the current administration, what's your form? I know what my approach is one:one with folks. It's essentially not condemning people who find themseles reaching a point of regret because in my mind, if we shut the door in their faces there's no way for them to come back. FAFO is an all too human reaction. I've had that thought from time to time. But is it productive to achieving the meeting of needs in this society?

Looks like maybe 2-ish posters responded on point to the questions so a reminder seemed like a good idea.

[Dr. Shades]

"FAFO" = ?

“F” Around and Find Out: It's basically a label right now for people regretting their Trump vote.

Ahh, I see. Thank you.

"FAFO" = ?

No, that is incorrect. "FAFO" does not equal question mark.

Haha, you got me.

[Some Schmo]

Gentle reminder. The topic isn't the title of the video in question. Here's the title of this topic and questions posed.

FAFO v. Empathy

See Jane. See Jane stand and deliver. Do you agree or disagree with her advice? Her challenge to enlarge the tent? for what it's worth I agree wholeheartedly with her. Reflecting on what form my own protest takes. If you're in direct opposition to the activity of the current administration, what's your form? I know what my approach is one:one with folks. It's essentially not condemning people who find themseles reaching a point of regret because in my mind, if we shut the door in their faces there's no way for them to come back. FAFO is an all too human reaction. I've had that thought from time to time. But is it productive to achieving the meeting of needs in this society?

Looks like maybe 2-ish posters responded on point to the questions so a reminder seemed like a good idea.

Yeah, I thought about your question and didn't answer because I'm probably not going to say what you want to hear. I think most people here can guess where I stand on this topic.

[Jersey Girl]

Gentle reminder. The topic isn't the title of the video in question. Here's the title of this topic and questions posed.



Looks like maybe 2-ish posters responded on point to the questions so a reminder seemed like a good idea.

Yeah, I thought about your question and didn't answer because I'm probably not going to say what you want to hear. I think most people here can guess where I stand on this topic.

I don't want you to say what you think I want to hear. I want you to say what you think.

I haven't even said what *I* think yet so please don't second guess me. If you want me to put my cards on the table first, I'm happy to do that.

I got cards. I got the best cards. Nobody's ever seen cards like I have.

[canpakes]

I got cards. I got the best cards. Nobody's ever seen cards like I have.

“Many people have approached me. ‘Sir’, they say, with tears in their eyes, ‘Sir, please show us your cards, sir … we hear that they are the best cards, the best that anyone has ever seen!’ … so many people, many people are saying that nobody has ever seen so many people say this.”