The long-term damage MAGA is doing to us.

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Gunner wrote:I wonder how long it will take them to realize that.
I don't have great news on that. How long does it normally take a person to realize they were wrong about something? The dumber the thing they were wrong about, the harder it is to admit it. Plus, there is some value to Trump's method. If you show no concern and just say to your own people, "I don't care", you lower their expectations. So there is a positive side to coldness. He'll sell bad inflation to his people where Biden couldn't do it. (to any who still need to be convinced)

I think Midas touch has to look really hard to find conservatives who "regret their vote". And even then, it's not a full regret. Like, one of their examples was a woman freaking out about Ukraine. Why? she knows people in Ukraine so it personally affects her. In her same complaint she said she totally supported the President on DOGE (the dumbest thing ever). Why? Because she probably doesn't know any federal employees.
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Physics Guy wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:58 pm
Americans have elected Trump twice and the bell cannot be unrung. A country that can do something like that can never be trusted again. It can't be trusted to act in the common good, or to keep its promises, or even to act intelligently in its own interests.
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Gadianton wrote:
Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:50 pm
Gunner wrote:I wonder how long it will take them to realize that.
I don't have great news on that. How long does it normally take a person to realize they were wrong about something? The dumber the thing they were wrong about, the harder it is to admit it. Plus, there is some value to Trump's method. If you show no concern and just say to your own people, "I don't care", you lower their expectations. So there is a positive side to coldness. He'll sell bad inflation to his people where Biden couldn't do it. (to any who still need to be convinced)

I think Meidas touch has to look really hard to find conservatives who "regret their vote". And even then, it's not a full regret. Like, one of their examples was a woman freaking out about Ukraine. Why? she knows people in Ukraine so it personally affects her. In her same complaint she said she totally supported the President on DOGE (the dumbest thing ever). Why? Because she probably doesn't know any federal employees.
Sadly, I suspect you are right. It has long been apparent to me that you're right that the dumber the thing they were wrong about, the harder it is to admit being or having been wrong about it, because the stupider they have to admit they were for having believed it in the first place. I think a good example of that is flat-earthers, as virtually nothing is stupider than insisting, despite all the contrary evidence, that the world is flat, yet few are more adamantly convinced they must be right than they are.

It is somewhat encouraging, though, that Midas touch is growing in popularity and is now the most popular podcast. They are criticized for being too one-sided, but that is, to me, given all the currently relevant evidence, about as unreasonable as accusing advocates of a globular earth of being too one-sided.

By the way, you misspelled my name again. :shock:
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Yeah, I'm not tired of winning yet. Might I interest you in a national divorce at this point on the grounds of irreconcilable differences? I'll give you a good deal. We can even do it California style and you get to be the woman. It'd be well worth it to me just to get rid of you at this point.

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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:22 am
Yeah, I'm not tired of winning yet. Might I interest you in a national divorce at this point on the grounds of irreconcilable differences? I'll give you a good deal. We can even do it California style and you get to be the woman. It'd be well worth it to me just to get rid of you at this point.

Fuera liberals, Fuera!!!
By that ridiculous, amazingly ignorant post, you have only further damaged your already abysmally low credibility! You didn't even try to honestly understand, address or even acknowledge the very real concerns brought out by the OP.
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I think the long-term damage is what MAGA and Trump World are hoping to achieve. They want to see America end and some fascist entity to arise in its place.
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From what I see, I'm unconvinced that Trump is trying to Make America Great Again (when was it Great the first time around?). It all appears to be being run as a personal Trump fiefdom to Make Donald (and his mates) Rich Again. If anything good happens for Americans, it's just a happy coincidence.

And I don't think America voted Trump in for a second term. I think you've voted in a Trump dynasty for the longer term.
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ajax gets raped up the ass by Trump and he closes his eyes, squinting out the pain, and screams, "I'm winning!"

Such is the typical damned loser that is the Trump fan.
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I think some of the wanna be oligarchs of America are looking at Russia and wondering how they can do the same in the US. Sure they might have to have personal private army/security, but cents on the dollars when they can own so much of what the public owns today.
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