Former Bishop charged with historic sexual assault

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Re: Former Bishop charged with historic sexual assault

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Equality wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:08 am
Kids are far far more likely to be assaulted by a pastor or coach than a drag queen or transgender person.
What are the stats on this?
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News alert: Many Mormon bishops get horny and are sexually frustrated and seeking outlets. The abuse is disgusting and unacceptable. Maybe more satisfying sex with adult, consenting women (in marriage or not) would help lessen the rate of these ecclesiastical abuses of children.
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A former Latter-day Saint bishop faces felony charges for allegedly sexually assaulting a teenage girl in his office nearly 20 years ago.

Mark Lehnhof Stevens, 68, of Washington, Utah, is charged in 3rd District Court in with one count of forcible sodomy, a first-degree felony, and two counts second-degree of forcible sexual abuse.

Between 2006 and 2007, Stevens allegedly asked the 16-year-old girl to meet with him to discuss her leadership role in church according to charging documents. The girl, identified in court documents only with initials, met with him in his office at The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He allegedly told her he wanted to meet weekly.

He allegedly started asking the teen about sex and her personal sexual behavior. He told her she would be expected to keep her future husband sexually satisfied and if her husband had issues with pornography or sin, God would hold her accountable, the charges state.

Stevens then walked around the desk and sexually assaulted the girl, according to charging documents.
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According to the Church a Bishop is given the job after divine guidance has been given. Was God asleep at the wheel on that day?
If God has a physical body, maybe he was too horny to think straight on the days he inspires some of these callings.
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cinepro wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 4:50 pm
Equality wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:08 am
Kids are far far more likely to be assaulted by a pastor or coach than a drag queen or transgender person.
What are the stats on this?
Cinepro, you need a new act. Defending the indefensible has left you tortured.
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Re: Former Bishop charged with historic sexual assault

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cinepro wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 4:50 pm
Equality wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:08 am
Kids are far far more likely to be assaulted by a pastor or coach than a drag queen or transgender person.
What are the stats on this?
Of 10,885 sex crimes involving kids since the "Who's Making News" project started tracking and breaking down categories of offenders, there have been:

Drag Queens: 1
Transgender People: 5
Coaches: 363
Ordained Clergy: 578
Other Religious (i.e. not ordained, but someone affiliated with their church): 268
Republican Politicians: 60
Libertarian Politicians: 15
Democrat Politicians: 12

So, to take Equility's statement a bit further, a child is ten times more likely to be assaulted by a Republican politician than a drag queen or transgender person. They're also more likely to be assaulted by a police officer (301), doctor (43), or teacher (539).

When you consider that there are at least 3 times as many transgender people as Republican politicians, it really helps demonstrate just how dangerous Republican politicians are to the safety of children.
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Re: Former Bishop charged with historic sexual assault

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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:53 pm
So, to take Equility's statement a bit further, a child is ten times more likely to be assaulted by a Republican politician than a drag queen or transgender person. When you consider that there are at least 3 times as many transgender people as Republican politicians, it really helps demonstrate just how dangerous Republican politicians are to the safety of children.
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Re: Former Bishop charged with historic sexual assault

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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:53 pm
cinepro wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 4:50 pm
What are the stats on this?
Of 10,885 sex crimes involving kids since the "Who's Making News" project started tracking and breaking down categories of offenders, there have been:

Drag Queens: 1
Transgender People: 5
Coaches: 363
Ordained Clergy: 578
Other Religious (i.e. not ordained, but someone affiliated with their church): 268
Republican Politicians: 60
Libertarian Politicians: 15
Democrat Politicians: 12
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Hey, hey, hey. Hold on there. There are six from transgender and drag queens? That is 6 too many. Obviously, Trump demagogued the issue, given the relative low number. What is Trump doing to reduce the incidences of sex crimes involving kids where the perpetrators are coaches, clergy and other religious figures?

By the way, what about scout leaders? The data shows 11--nearly double that of drag queens and transgender perpetrators. It seems the bright light of the media on the scout leader problem has greatly reduced the incidence. Perhaps it is time the media stepped up its light-shining on coaches, clergy, and other religious actors.
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sock puppet wrote:
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Hey, hey, hey. Hold on there. There are six from transgender and drag queens? That is 6 too many.
Not allowing transgender people and that drag queen to use LDS restrooms might reduce the rate of LDS abuse by a fraction of a percent. Wouldn't that prove that it is all true?
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Re: Former Bishop charged with historic sexual assault

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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:53 pm
cinepro wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 4:50 pm
What are the stats on this?
Of 10,885 sex crimes involving kids since the "Who's Making News" project started tracking and breaking down categories of offenders, there have been:

Drag Queens: 1
Transgender People: 5
Coaches: 363
Ordained Clergy: 578
Other Religious (i.e. not ordained, but someone affiliated with their church): 268
Republican Politicians: 60
Libertarian Politicians: 15
Democrat Politicians: 12

So, to take Equility's statement a bit further, a child is ten times more likely to be assaulted by a Republican politician than a drag queen or transgender person. They're also more likely to be assaulted by a police officer (301), doctor (43), or teacher (539).

When you consider that there are at least 3 times as many transgender people as Republican politicians, it really helps demonstrate just how dangerous Republican politicians are to the safety of children.
Did you look at the data? Those numbers are from a dataset of 11,286 cases (from February 2023 - May 2024).

Of those 11,286 cases, 98 had a political affiliation.

So, do you think the other 11,000 people had no political affiliation? Would you assume that their affiliation is proportional to the ones we do know, and if so, what make you think the ones with known political affiliation are a good sample of the entire group?
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Re: Former Bishop charged with historic sexual assault

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cinepro wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 3:41 am
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:53 pm

Of 10,885 sex crimes involving kids since the "Who's Making News" project started tracking and breaking down categories of offenders, there have been:

Drag Queens: 1
Transgender People: 5
Coaches: 363
Ordained Clergy: 578
Other Religious (i.e. not ordained, but someone affiliated with their church): 268
Republican Politicians: 60
Libertarian Politicians: 15
Democrat Politicians: 12

So, to take Equility's statement a bit further, a child is ten times more likely to be assaulted by a Republican politician than a drag queen or transgender person. They're also more likely to be assaulted by a police officer (301), doctor (43), or teacher (539).

When you consider that there are at least 3 times as many transgender people as Republican politicians, it really helps demonstrate just how dangerous Republican politicians are to the safety of children.
Did you look at the data? Those numbers are from a dataset of 11,286 cases (from February 2023 - May 2024).

Of those 11,286 cases, 98 had a political affiliation.

So, do you think the other 11,000 people had no political affiliation? Would you assume that their affiliation is proportional to the ones we do know, and if so, what make you think the ones with known political affiliation are a good sample of the entire group?
You think the biggest issue being highlighted by the data is that some people didn’t have a registered political affiliation?
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Re: Former Bishop charged with historic sexual assault

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cinepro wrote:
Sat Mar 15, 2025 3:41 am
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:53 pm

Republican Politicians: 60
Libertarian Politicians: 15
Democrat Politicians: 12
[...]

Of those 11,286 cases, 98 had a political affiliation.

So, do you think the other 11,000 people had no political affiliation?

[...]
By 'Republican (etc.) politican', I understand a public figure either holding or aspiring to elective office, not just an ordinary person who happens to be a Republican (etc.) voter. Such figures are relatively rare amongst the general population, so it does not seem unreasonable that there should be only 98 of them out of an 11,000 population sample.

Am I misunderstanding here?
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