You guys are still at it! (why am I not surprised?)

[MG 2.0]

Truth is truth, wherever it is found. The Book of Abraham contains some priceless truths.

Regards,
MG

And yet you haven’t provided a single example. As The Stig has pointed out, your posts lack anything resembling substance, it’s just platitude after platitude after platitude. You’re the epitome of a lazy learner.

Pre-mortal existence: The book teaches that life did not begin at birth, but that individuals existed as spirits before coming to earth.

Creation from existing materials: It states that the earth was organized from pre-existing matter, rather than created ex nihilo (out of nothing).

Purpose of mortal life: The book provides a clear explanation of the purpose of earthly existence, describing it as a proving ground for spirits to see if they will obey God's commandments.

Plurality of gods: The text refers to multiple gods involved in the creation process, introducing a concept of henotheism.

Eternal nature of spirits: It teaches about the eternal nature of spirits and their different levels of intelligence.

Foreordination: The book discusses the concept of certain spirits being chosen for specific roles before the earth's creation.

Jesus Christ's pre-mortal role: It describes Jesus as a divine being who led other spirits in organizing the earth.

Abrahamic covenant: The book provides additional context for God's covenant with Abraham, showing it as part of a long line of prophetic tradition.

Rejection of idolatry: It emphasizes Abraham's rejection of false gods and idolatry, even in the face of persecution.

Eternal progression: The book teaches that faithful individuals will have "glory added upon their heads for ever and ever"

Perplexity A.I.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

B.S.

You may want to look at one or more of these descriptors and honestly question whether your head is screwed on straight.

That’s the reaction of a narcissist. A normal person would have accepted they phrased it grandiosely. A narcissist needs to seek to justify it and position themselves as not being wrong. Which is exactly what you’ve done. It’s what you always do. To be fair, you can’t help yourself. It’s just the personality disorder that you have. It’s not really your fault.

Please can you refrain from using swear words? There are ladies on this thread who don’t need to witness your use of industrial language.

I will not continue down this path with you.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

Shulem,

I will not respond to you any further on this thread. I don't appreciate the sexual overtones and innuendo you've brought into the thread.

I'll leave it to others as to whether or not they find your 'natural man' posts appropriate or not.

Regards,
MG

[The Stig]

Nice substance-free dismissive. More evidence.

Critics are constantly making the accusation that believers have been deceived.

You're not the first. You won't be the last.

Regards,
MG

What do you think I meant when I said "...you're capacity for self deception is in a class all its own"?

[Shulem]

Shulem,

I will not respond to you any further on this thread. I don't appreciate the sexual overtones and innuendo you've brought into the thread.

I'll leave it to others as to whether or not they find your 'natural man' posts appropriate or not.

Regards,
MG

Great, the bug is not going to respond to me any further. Fine by me. So many questions left unanswered but you are not off the hook, MG. This is not over!

And I told ya the gloves were off and I meant it! Your f-ing church has a lot to answer for. The Book of Abraham is historical crap although it does contains some theology and insight that Smith stole/borrowed from other sources and was not new to the world in 1842.

Keep all communications "Rated PG" to "Rated PG-13" or better.

[I Have Questions]

That’s the reaction of a narcissist. A normal person would have accepted they phrased it grandiosely. A narcissist needs to seek to justify it and position themselves as not being wrong. Which is exactly what you’ve done. It’s what you always do. To be fair, you can’t help yourself. It’s just the personality disorder that you have. It’s not really your fault.

Please can you refrain from using swear words? There are ladies on this thread who don’t need to witness your use of industrial language.

I will not continue down this path with you.

Regards,
MG

I will remain vigilantly on the lookout for your narcissism. I stand ready to call you out whenever is see it.

[I Have Questions]

And yet you haven’t provided a single example. As The Stig has pointed out, your posts lack anything resembling substance, it’s just platitude after platitude after platitude. You’re the epitome of a lazy learner.

Pre-mortal existence: The book teaches that life did not begin at birth, but that individuals existed as spirits before coming to earth.

Creation from existing materials: It states that the earth was organized from pre-existing matter, rather than created ex nihilo (out of nothing).

Purpose of mortal life: The book provides a clear explanation of the purpose of earthly existence, describing it as a proving ground for spirits to see if they will obey God's commandments.

Plurality of gods: The text refers to multiple gods involved in the creation process, introducing a concept of henotheism.

Eternal nature of spirits: It teaches about the eternal nature of spirits and their different levels of intelligence.

Foreordination: The book discusses the concept of certain spirits being chosen for specific roles before the earth's creation.

Jesus Christ's pre-mortal role: It describes Jesus as a divine being who led other spirits in organizing the earth.

Abrahamic covenant: The book provides additional context for God's covenant with Abraham, showing it as part of a long line of prophetic tradition.

Rejection of idolatry: It emphasizes Abraham's rejection of false gods and idolatry, even in the face of persecution.

Eternal progression: The book teaches that faithful individuals will have "glory added upon their heads for ever and ever"

Perplexity A.I.

Regards,
MG

Why did you need an A.I. Bot to answer such a simple question? Doing so reinforces the point that you lack substance. Have you not read the Book of Abraham? Have you no independant thoughts of your own? Why couldn’t you answer off the top of your head? Do you not pay attention in lessons? You cannot rely on an A.I. chatbot when you’re trying to teach investigators, it looks like you don’t know your subject. The people lurking here will have the impression that you aren’t very knowledgeable about your faith (if they didn't already).

Incidentally, here is what your A.I. Bot (Perplexity) says about The Book Of Abraham…

The Book of Abraham, a text included in the Pearl of Great Price and central to the teachings of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS), has been widely criticized as a fraudulent work. Here are the primary reasons scholars and critics argue that the Book of Abraham is not authentic:
1. Mismatch Between Joseph Smith's Translation and Egyptological Evidence
The papyri Joseph Smith used to produce the Book of Abraham have been identified by modern Egyptologists as common Egyptian funerary texts, specifically parts of the Book of Breathings and Book of the Dead. These texts have no connection to Abraham or the narrative Smith presented.
Experts in Egyptology, such as Dr. James H. Breasted and Dr. W.M. Flinders Petrie, have declared that Smith's interpretations of the hieroglyphics and facsimiles are entirely incorrect. For instance, Smith misidentified figures in Facsimile No. 3, turning Egyptian deities like Isis into characters from his narrative.
2. Dating of the Papyri
The papyri date to between the 3rd century BCE and the 1st century CE, long after Abraham's time (traditionally placed around 2000 BCE). This makes it impossible for Abraham to have written or been directly associated with these documents.
3. Internal Inconsistencies and Anachronisms
The text contains concepts and language reflective of 19th-century ideas rather than ancient times. Critics argue that this suggests Smith was influenced by his contemporary worldview rather than translating an ancient document.
4. Problems with the Facsimiles
The facsimiles included in the Book of Abraham have been translated by modern Egyptologists, who find no correlation between Smith's explanations and their actual meanings. For example, Facsimile No. 2 contains symbols related to Egyptian funerary practices, not Abrahamic theology.
5. Shift in LDS Church Explanations
Initially presented as a literal translation by Joseph Smith, the LDS Church has since adjusted its stance, suggesting that the Book of Abraham may have been a "catalyst for revelation" rather than a direct translation. However, this explanation is undermined by Smith’s own claims that he was translating directly from the papyri.
6. Scholarly Consensus
Non-LDS scholars overwhelmingly agree that the Book of Abraham is not a historical document but rather a product of Joseph Smith's imagination or misunderstanding. Dr. A.H. Sayce called it an "impudent fraud," while F.S. Spalding criticized it as "a farrago of nonsense".
In summary, extensive evidence from Egyptology, textual analysis, and historical context strongly suggests that the Book of Abraham is not an ancient text but rather a creation by Joseph Smith based on his interpretation—or misinterpretation—of Egyptian artifacts available to him in the 19th century.

Perplexity A.I.

[MG 2.0]

Why did you need an A.I. Bot to answer such a simple question? Doing so reinforces the point that you lack substance. Have you not read the Book of Abraham? Have you no independant thoughts of your own? Why couldn’t you answer off the top of your head? Do you not pay attention in lessons? You cannot rely on an A.I. chatbot when you’re trying to teach investigators, it looks like you don’t know your subject. The people lurking here will have the impression that you aren’t very knowledgeable about your faith (if they didn't already).

Your question dealt with what "priceless truths" are found in the Book of Abraham. The answer was given. And your response is all about A.I.

Sure, I could go to the Book of Abraham and pull out the essential truths found therein but that would take more time than I am willing to give to you on the answer. That is the beauty of A.I.

Rather than any focus on those truths you spin off into other stuff.

Apparently you weren't serious in your inquiry. Lurkers can look at the priceless truths in the list provided and determine for themselves whether or not those things have meaning and importance in their own search for purpose/truth. As it is, and as I've mentioned, the critics...such as yourself...have absolutely NOTHING to offer in the way of a presentation/narrative as to the purpose of our existence while we live on breathe on planet earth. Except to make of it what we will. The CofJCofLDS offers a narrative of eternal purpose and progression. My gosh! It doesn't get any BIGGER than that.

You and the other critics, as I said, are empty vessels at the end of the day. You have nothing to offer beyond eat, drink, and be merry. Or in other words, simply taking advantage of all life has to offer without thinking of accountability for actions after we die, or what we might do to act and provide service in helping others to obtain eternal life in the kingdom of God as families. I could go on.

Simply put, without the truths taught in the Book of Abraham and elsewhere...life is basically a crapshoot. Make of it what you will.

Essentially, you could be a bum...and that's OK.

Granted, the world is full of people that make awesome choices and do great things without religion or Mormonism in particular. I know and have known these people. I call/called them my friends. But that doesn't discount that truth is truth and that there are benefits in knowing and practicing and living by that truth and holding on to the iron rod and heading in the direction of the Tree of Life.

The Book of Abraham offers a number of those "priceless truths" that God has disseminated into the world. Joseph didn't operate/live in a vacuum. Some of these truths were already self evident to seekers/philosophers of his day.

Anyway, I think you're making too much of where information comes from rather than focusing on whether or not that information/knowledge is true. You seem to be one of those that are ever learning and never able to come to a knowledge of the Truth. I could have been one of those if I hadn't held on to the Iron Rod and stayed on the path...even when it would have been easy to leave the path and go towards the Great and Spacious Building.

Truth is truth and there are many who know not where to find it. You don't make it any easier.

Regards,
MG

[I Have Questions]

Sure, I could go to the Book of Abraham and pull out the essential truths found therein…

I don’t think that you could.

…but that would take more time than I am willing to give to you on the answer.

Like I said, you’re lazy.

Rather than any focus on those truths you spin off into other stuff.

But they’re not truths. It’s just a list of stuff you believe. That doesn’t constitute an accepted truth. Pick one and (without using A.I.) demonstrate that it is “True - If something is true, it is based on facts rather than being invented or imagined, and is accurate and reliable.“
(COLLINS DEFINITION OF TRUE)
I predict that you won’t. Because a. You’re too lazy, and b. None of it is “true” per that definition.

You seem to be one of those that are ever learning and never able to come to a knowledge of the Truth. I could have been one of those if I hadn't held on to the Iron Rod and stayed on the path...even when it would have been easy to leave the path and go towards the Great and Spacious Building.

But you haven’t endured to the end have you…you’ve been called by an Apostle to serve a senior mission. You’ve been told by a General Authority to stop living by convenience and to start living by covenant - to stop making excuses and to trust The Lord to take care of all the things you think are stopping you, and serve a senior mission. But no, you cannot bring yourself to sustain those Apostles and General Authorities, you cannot bring yourself to trust in the Lord that you claim to believe in. If you believed what you spouted you’d be on a senior mission by now. But you’re not. Because you don’t. You prefer to be lazy and live by convenience.

[Shulem]

Truth is truth and there are many who know not where to find it.

You won't find any truth or truths in the Explanations of Facsimile No. 3. What do you get?

[x] lies
[x] slander
[x] desecration

Joe-blow the prophet laughing behind the scenes.

The Book of Abraham is like dirty toilet paper. Wash up after reading.