You guys are still at it! (why am I not surprised?)

[MG 2.0]

Dear readers,

All of the so-called priceless truths or essential truths that MG alludes to are entirely based on a faith based projection and cannot be scientifically proven.

At the end of the day, that is true. Religious belief is faith based. But that doesn't then mean that there aren't valid reasons to have religious faith.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

You’re not the great, knowledgable, stalwart of the Church that you laud yourself as being.

"Great and knowledgeable"? Yeah, right. No, I'm just a regular guy that shows up here to give reason for the faith that resides in me as to the veracity of the restoration narrative/story.

That doesn't go over very well.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

Mormonism is in a state of flux and transition.

The Restoration is indeed ongoing. President Nelson and other leaders have emphasized this a number of times. What one might expect.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

The fact that you suggest the accountability comes after your dead suggests you don’t feel accountable to others whilst you’re alive.

Of course you know that this is not true. Yet you say it anyways.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

You'd think he'd grant IHAQ the same consideration without bumping the post trying to dig for personal information that most rational people are not going to disclose in a hostile environment.

MG wants that personal information so he can use it to attack his foe.

Not really. What I am opposed to is "the foe" making stuff up that isn't true. I was wondering what kind of person would do that.

Regards,
MG

[Shulem]

...science is based on solid ground and stands firm. Stand on truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

It's important to recognize that science has limitations:

Science is provisional: Scientific theories are always subject to revision or replacement if new evidence contradicts them. While some theories are so well-established that they're unlikely to be overturned (like heliocentrism or cell theory), science remains open to new discoveries.

Science deals with probabilities: In scientific research, we often deal with probabilities rather than absolute proof. This means that scientific conclusions are typically expressed with varying degrees of certainty.

Science has boundaries: There are questions that science cannot answer, such as moral or aesthetic judgments. Science describes how the world is, not how it should be.

Science relies on assumptions: The scientific method is based on certain philosophical assumptions, such as the existence of an objective reality and the uniformity of natural laws. While these assumptions have proven highly useful, they are not themselves scientifically provable.

Perplexity A.I.

Science has become a religion, of sorts. But it takes a certain kind of faith to believe and accept everything we learn in the scientific arena.

If this is a world in which we learn to live by faith I would not expect God to be found inside the test tube of experimentation based on purely objective reality as we know it through observation using our natural senses.

Regards,
MG

Yes, science has limitations but certain things have been nailed down and are not so limited. For example: science knows when and how ancient Egypt was founded. Compare that with information detailed in the Book of Abraham and science wins! The Book of Abraham fails to tell us the truth -- it's a lie. Egypt was not founded after the flood (2300 BC) as reported by the Jews. That is utterly false. Chapter one of the Book of Abraham is utter garbage and is scientifically proven false by proven established methods.

Facsimile No. 3 is DOA. Science cannot save it, not now, and not ever! Religious faith in what Joseph Smith said about Facsimile No. 3 is futile and pointless. Mormons are brainwashed and will believe anything that supports their cult. We see how MG is peddling nasty snake oil to support his cult's teachings. I have no respect for you as a person, MG. All credibility is out the window. The gloves are off and I will destory your argument and belittle you every time. This has become somewhat personal. You are now a target.

To hell with the Book of Abraham! Ashes to ashes.

[Shulem]

Dear readers,

All of the so-called priceless truths or essential truths that MG alludes to are entirely based on a faith based projection and cannot be scientifically proven.

At the end of the day, that is true. Religious belief is faith based. But that doesn't then mean that there aren't valid reasons to have religious faith.

Regards,
MG

Have all the faith you want, you snake oil salesman! I will have none of that Mormon garbage. I have transcended that! You remain a slave.

Do you have faith that Smith hacked out Anubis's nose on good faith? Your Church publishes abominations and slanders the Egyptians.

So, screw Mormon Jesus and let's hack off his nose! How about step on his neck so he can't breathe? White Mormon supremacy (Brigham Young) should have no problem with that.

You disgust me, MG.

[MG 2.0]

Science has become a religion, of sorts. But it takes a certain kind of faith to believe and accept everything we learn in the scientific arena.

If this is a world in which we learn to live by faith I would not expect God to be found inside the test tube of experimentation based on purely objective reality as we know it through observation using our natural senses.

Regards,
MG

Yes, science has limitations but certain things have been nailed down and are not so limited. For example: science knows when and how ancient Egypt was founded. Compare that with information detailed in the Book of Abraham and science wins! The Book of Abraham fails to tell us the truth -- it's a lie. Egypt was not founded after the flood (2300 BC) as reported by the Jews. That is utterly false. Chapter one of the Book of Abraham is utter garbage and is scientifically proven false by proven established methods.

Facsimile No. 3 is DOA. Science cannot save it, not now, and not ever! Religious faith in what Joseph Smith said about Facsimile No. 3 is futile and pointless. Mormons are brainwashed and will believe anything that supports their cult. We see how MG is peddling nasty snake oil to support his cult's teachings. I have no respect for you as a person, MG. All credibility is out the window. The gloves are off and I will destory your argument and belittle you every time. This has become somewhat personal. You are now a target.

To hell with the Book of Abraham! Ashes to ashes.

It's interesting, at least to me, that my faith in Jesus Christ (Redeemer, Creator, Savior, Atoner, Lord) comes as a result of membership and activity in the church that you disparage. The fruits of the CofJCofLDS in the lives of its members and the doctrines of eternal progression that it espouses are only two things that point out, for me, that there is much more to the church and its doctrines than whether or not the facsimiles are true and valid in all respects. What is important are the truths contained therein combined with the other truths revealed through the restoration through prophets.

We understand that there are at times the mistakes of men that are intermingled with pure truth. It's always been that way throughout the earth's history and its peoples. I don't expect the PofGP to be perfect. I don't expect the Bible to be perfect. I don't expect the D&C to be perfect. I mean, look at Section 132 just for one example. I don't expect that the Book of Mormon was perfect in every respect immediately after translation. Joseph went back and changed/edited the original.

As I've said before, I think the critics find a 'hobby horse' of criticism that then leads them away from the greater truths of the gospel. It's unfortunate, but not surprising. We live in a world where it makes as much sense to disbelieve as it does to believe in many respects. Faith becomes a choice. Belief in the restoration, in my opinion, has to also fall withing the category of it being a choice...and not necessarily an OBVIOUS choice.

But that's just me. I don't mind, really, if you continue to be mean and badmouth me or my faith. It's what you do and it is what it is.

If you feel the compulsion to do so, that's your prerogative.

Regards,
MG

[Shulem]

It's interesting, at least to me, that my faith in Jesus Christ (Redeemer, Creator, Savior, Atoner, Lord) comes as a result of membership and activity in the church that you disparage. The fruits of the CofJCofLDS in the lives of its members and the doctrines of eternal progression that it espouses are only two things that point out, for me, that there is much more to the church and its doctrines than whether or not the facsimiles are true and valid in all respects. What is important are the truths contained therein combined with the other truths revealed through the restoration through prophets.

We understand that there are at times the mistakes of men that are intermingled with pure truth. It's always been that way throughout the earth's history and its peoples. I don't expect the PofGP to be perfect. I don't expect the Bible to be perfect. I don't expect the D&C to be perfect. I mean, look at Section 132 just for one example. I don't expect that the Book of Mormon was perfect in every respect immediately after translation. Joseph went back and changed/edited the original.

As I've said before, I think the critics find a 'hobby horse' of criticism that then leads them away from the greater truths of the gospel. It's unfortunate, but not surprising. We live in a world where it makes as much sense to disbelieve as it does to believe in many respects. Faith becomes a choice. Belief in the restoration, in my opinion, has to also fall withing the category of it being a choice...and not necessarily an OBVIOUS choice.

But that's just me. I don't mind, really, if you continue to be mean and badmouth me or my faith. It's what you do and it is what it is.

If you feel the compulsion to do so, that's your prerogative.

Regards,
MG

Worthless statement on your part. Your apologetic is a total failure.

You're a liar and have no shame. Mormon mockery of the Facsimiles is a disgrace. You are a disgrace!

I dislike you. I rebuke you. YOU are my foe. Depart!

[Shulem]

Dear Readers,

Let me tell you what MG offers. Suppose someone approached you with 10 pieces of candy. Suppose 5 pieces were sweet and delicious, never mind the extra calories, just enjoy. But suppose the other 5 pieces were laced with poison! That is what you get with apologetic Mormonism. Eat what they think is sweet and never mind the poison. The Book of Abraham is laced with poison. It's not true.

The Mormons are not capable of telling the truth so long as they are under the testimony trance.

MG will not tell you truth.

I solemnly testify and know the Book of Abraham is an abomination.

Shulem