Art.....

[Morley]

Well, I haven't said anything stupid on here in a while so, let me try. We've all heard the adage - those who can, do; those who can't, teach. And, of coarse everyone knows that the only reason country bands are country is because they flunked out as rockers. Similarly, I've always held the opinion that the only reason that anything besides realism in painting types exists is because some artists lack the skills to do realism.

I used to have pretty much the same opinion.

[Dr. Shades]

I think I get what you are saying. You are simplifying, or dumbing down how to approach the image in mind, and not so much concerned about the outcome.

If you can de-mystify the technique, you'll tend to have a much better outcome, in my opinion.

In woodworking and metal working I can see, in my mind, in three D, ahead of time what I am going to create. I think maybe if I approach it as a photo that I am taking, I can see in my mind on how to express the "image" in a collective three D perspective.

Is that closer to your thought?

Yes. Much.

[Markk]

Well, I haven't said anything stupid on here in a while so, let me try. We've all heard the adage - those who can, do; those who can't, teach. And, of course everyone knows that the only reason country bands are country is because they flunked out as rockers. Similarly, I've always held the opinion that the only reason that anything besides realism in painting types exists is because some artists lack the skills to do realism.

Right or wrong I feel the same way in regard to art. Which is why I take the art of a Picasso with much respect, When a painter can paint a portrait, landscape, or imaginary scene realistically; then paint a wild abstract piece, then it seems to carry more respect, in my unqualified opinion.

Piet Mondrian as an example....




In regard to Country music vs Rock....I am going to start a thread on it. That will be fun, I hope.

[dantana]

Well, I haven't said anything stupid on here in a while so, let me try. We've all heard the adage - those who can, do; those who can't, teach. And, of course everyone knows that the only reason country bands are country is because they flunked out as rockers. Similarly, I've always held the opinion that the only reason that anything besides realism in painting types exists is because some artists lack the skills to do realism.

I used to have pretty much the same opinion.

I'm going to stand by my opening qualifier. The post was simple minded. In regards to the art part that is.

I blame it on my dad. He was an accomplished artist. He felt the gold standard was realism in oil. Oil being perhaps the most difficult when shooting for realism. His perspectives were always spot on, and his water colors, pen and inks, etc. were great. He could never really get his - Winslow Homer on in the oils though.

[Dr. Shades]

. . . I've always held the opinion that the only reason that anything besides realism in painting types exists is because some artists lack the skills to do realism.

I agree.

[Morley]

. . . I've always held the opinion that the only reason that anything besides realism in painting types exists is because some artists lack the skills to do realism.

I agree.

Meh. That's like saying the only reason authors resort to poetry is that they can't write true crime.

[Morley]

Similarly, I've always held the opinion that the only reason that anything besides realism in painting types exists is because some artists lack the skills to do realism.

[Dantana, I know that you're sort of kidding but, for the sake of discussion, I'm going to respond like this is a serious argument.]


How do you explain Gerhard Richter, then? He paints both



Gerhard Richter, Betty, 1988


and




Gerhard Richter, 946-3 Abstract Painting (2016)



edited to add painting attributions

[huckelberry]

Similarly, I've always held the opinion that the only reason that anything besides realism in painting types exists is because some artists lack the skills to do realism.

[Dantana, I know that you're sort of kidding but, for the sake of discussion, I'm going to respond like this is a serious argument.]


How do you explain Gerhard Richter, then? He paints both





and

One might add that Gerhard Richter is an example included on page 5 of expensive abstract art.

[Morley]

One might add that Gerhard Richter is an example included on page 5 of expensive abstract art.

Good eye, Huck.

[Dr. Shades]

This art piece by Barnett Newman sold for 43.8 million:



This art piece by Cy Twombly sold for 96.6 million:

There's no way anyone valued those "paintings" that much.

I'm convinced the whole thing is a money-laundering scheme.