Why The Progressive Movement Should File For 501c3 Status

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A CNN poll shows that Democrat favorability stands at 29%, indicating that more Americans believe in the existence of aliens among us than support the Democrat Party.

First, I want to clarify that I think conservative and moderate Democrats certainly share some responsibility for the loss in the 2024 elections. However, it is undeniable that the progressive wing of the party is at least 95% to blame for Trump's victory in the presidential race.

Over the last 15 years, we have observed the far left wing of the Democrat party transform into a militant religion at an astonishing pace. In many respects, individuals who have embraced progressive ideology exhibit similarities to how a religion influences the thoughts and behaviors of its adherents on a daily basis.

For instance, consider this discussion occurring in another thread here in Spirit Paradise.
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For those who are or have been Mormons, this conversation will likely resonate, as it reflects specific themes found within Mormon beliefs. In this discussion, Schmo states, "That's why I often say kids and anyone who voted for Kamala are absolved." He proceeds to clarify that those who did not vote for Kamala played a role in this disaster. To my ears, having been raised in the Mormon faith, that certainly comes across as quite religious! In Mormonism, children and devoted members of the church are regarded as "pure" and are not seen as being under the sway of Satan's malevolent influence. However, all others in this world are regarded as unclean until they undergo baptism into the faith.

In the following sentence, Schmo states, "Ok, nobody's dumber than Trump voters. But non-voters and third-party voters are a very close second." He is suggesting that anyone who disagrees with his far-left agenda lacks intelligence. In his view, no one is exempt because they believe there is only one true ideology in progressivism.

The mindset that Schmo is showcasing for everyone is the same mindset that is deeply rooted in Mormon missionaries. Missionaries are taught there is only one true religion, and those who are not Mormon need to embrace Mormonism, as the second coming of Christ is imminent. If they do not become members of the church before his return, they may face destruction during the day of vengeance and burning!

The mentality that "my ideology is the only true ideology" being presented by Schmo on the board is not original to him. This harmful ideology underpins progressive thought, and from this foundation, the progressive movement expresses its disdain for the world openly.

However, it is important to recognize that adopting a rigid and aggressive stance to draw in voters has alienated a significant portion of the American populace from both the progressive movement and the Democratic Party, which genuinely saddens me.

Here is the current position of us as Democrats. The far left wing of the Democrat party has adopted a militant stance, leading the party as a whole to appear as if it is filled with individuals who are unwilling to compromise, despite the American people's calls for collaboration with the current administration for the nation's benefit. What should we, as Democrats, do when we have permitted a militant religion to reshape the principles of the Democratic Party? How should we address a faction within our party that believes there is a malevolent force governing the country, and that only their extreme ideology can overcome this perceived evil?

In my opinion, we as Democrats should distance ourselves from the militant radicals within our party. They could then establish their own party or pursue 501c3 status to become a recognized legal religion under current U.S. law. This allows individuals who adhere to an extreme belief system to practice their faith freely, appoint their militant God, and share their messages about the perceived malevolence of the so-called orange Satan running the country.
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He is suggesting that anyone who disagrees with his far-left agenda lacks intelligence.
I think what he's actually suggesting is that anyone who disagrees with Trump's far-right agenda lacks intelligence and anyone who enabled it by not standing against it is a close second.

Thomas Nagel would disagree with his second point.

Let me ask you this: once Hitler took over Germany, was Nazism less extreme because his vision became increasingly normalized?
In Mormonism, children and devoted members of the church are regarded as "pure"
Sure, but at the same time they were singing about heavenwy father loving them not getting on tik-tok and yelling at foreigners to get out of their country or fighting for their rights to get the measles and spread to as many people as possible.
adopting a rigid and aggressive stance to draw in voters has alienated a significant portion of the American populace from both the progressive movement
If the progressive movement is so bad not to mention a minority, then why do you care if American's have been alienated by it?

It seems to me most of the left is capitulating to the regime just like you want them to. Maybe you and they can help make Tesla vandalism a hate crime, punishable by deportation to an El Salvador prison, while disagreeing with Trump about anything identifies one as a financer of the vandalism, which carries the same sentence? Not much I can do to stop you guys. I'm not going to help you. I will give you the middle finger for the time being on this forum.

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Thank you for illustrating the point I’m trying to convey with the topic of this thread. You're the first to reply with a comment, and naturally, you choose to mention Hitler and Nazism!

Gadianton, dear sir, it seems you are not quite grasping the concept! The American electorate chose Trump for office, along with a majority of Republicans in the Senate and Congress, because many continue to equate Trump and his supporters with Hitler and the Nazi movement. It seems that your offerings are not attracting any interest, my friend! It's an absurd argument that led to Trump's election twice!

How is it possible that you don't see that many people are put off by progressives attempting to persuade everyone that conservatives are akin to Nazis? Your absurd argument is merely driving left leaning voters toward the Republicans. Once more, you are demonstrating my argument that progressivism functions as a fervent ideology, resistant to altering its fundamental principles regardless of the evidence put forth.

Rational individuals who remain unaffected by the woke virus might recognize that labeling someone as Hitler and his supporters as Nazis for the past eight years has resulted in losing congressional seats and two presidential elections to the person they perceive as a contemporary Hitler. It may be time for them to reconsider their political strategies. However, the progressive movements will not relent, they will intensify their efforts to persuade everyday Americans that Trump is malevolent and that his supporters lack intelligence.

If individuals like you and Schmo fail to recognize that Americans are weary of the progressive movement's comparisons of their neighbors to Nazis, come 2026, Trump will have a Senate with more than 60 Republican senators. Remember my words!

As Trump mentioned in his recent address to Congress, he faces challenges in persuading the Democratic Party to collaborate with him. At this moment, our party is committed to opposing Trump regardless of what he proposes. This means he dictates the response of the Democratic Party to everything he proposes! This is crucial for everyone to grasp, so I will reiterate it once more. The Democrats alignment in opposing everything Trump proposes enables him to present his agenda in a manner that portrays them as foolish and unpatriotic. He doesn't need to speculate about whether they'll collaborate with him, as he understands their likely reactions.

He engages in actions such as honoring a young man with cancer during his speech, fully aware that the Republicans will rise to acknowledge the young man while the Democrats remain seated. Or he places 200 illegal gang members on a plane and flies them to a foreign prison, fully aware that the Democrats will oppose the action, thereby making them seem more sympathetic towards rapists and predators than towards Americans. He transports undocumented individuals to Guantanamo for detention, fully aware that Democrats will oppose this action, while a majority of Americans are relieved that these offenders are no longer in the country.

However, as I mentioned, your strong feelings towards Trump seem to have influenced your perspective. Your perception of him as a contemporary Hitler leads you to adopt an extreme viewpoint, which is influencing your fellow Americans to lean towards the Republicans. You may not even be aware, but Trump is your master.
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The American electorate chose Trump for office, along with a majority of Republicans in the Senate and Congress, because …
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According to Trump, he won because of ‘the groceries’.

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He should probably get crackin’ on that. He seems to be heading in the wrong direction.
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Hound, how do you explain Bill Maher? I often see him criticized in liberal media for enabling right-wingers, or as you might put it, being against all the woke stuff from the left.

Here is his statement on why he won't help Trump, even though he's not woke. Or is he wrong about himself, and he really is woke? If you have 8 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS0pDwPkR60
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Gadianton wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 2:02 pm
He is suggesting that anyone who disagrees with his far-left agenda lacks intelligence.
I think what he's actually suggesting is that anyone who disagrees with Trump's far-right agenda lacks intelligence and anyone who enabled it by not standing against it is a close second.
??? Some Schmo himself disagrees with Trump's far-right agenda.
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Gadianton wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 3:50 pm
Hound, how do you explain Bill Maher? I often see him criticized in liberal media for enabling right-wingers, or as you might put it, being against all the woke stuff from the left.

Here is his statement on why he won't help Trump, even though he's not woke. Or is he wrong about himself, and he really is woke? If you have 8 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS0pDwPkR60
I have viewed the video in the link you shared. Please watch this video, https://youtu.be/lHbbmFyf7rQ?si=SkwtyYiEgIeBIH35 and then we can discuss both. Video is 3 minutes.

Maher and Cuomo are engaged in a conversation about Maher's forthcoming dinner at the White House, which he has consented to attend with Trump. The topics covered in this interview align perfectly with what I have been attempting to express on this board for months.

This stands in stark contrast to Schmo's method of fostering animosity and mockery towards those who do not align with his far-left agenda.

You are an intelligent individual. What is more effective in healing a nation, harboring pure hatred for half the population due to differing opinions, or embracing compromise?
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Mon Mar 31, 2025 11:21 am
What is more effective in healing a nation, harboring pure hatred for half the population due to differing opinions, or embracing compromise?
That’s going to require some significant buy-in from a team that told America that immigrants were eating their pets, that schools were performing lunchtime gender swaps on their kids, and that the country was “a garbage can for the world”. ; )
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canpakes wrote:
Mon Mar 31, 2025 1:19 pm
Hound of Heaven wrote:
Mon Mar 31, 2025 11:21 am
What is more effective in healing a nation, harboring pure hatred for half the population due to differing opinions, or embracing compromise?
That’s going to require some significant buy-in from a team that told America that immigrants were eating their pets, that schools were performing lunchtime gender swaps on their kids, and that the country was “a garbage can for the world”. ; )
Makes you wonder whether the HoH A.I. program has been kept free of Trump's rhetoric.
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Hound wrote:Maher and Cuomo are engaged in a conversation about Maher's forthcoming dinner at the White House, which he has consented to attend with Trump. The topics covered in this interview align perfectly with what I have been attempting to express on this board for months.
Yes, he's going to the dinner. I'm really curious how that plays out. I don't have the same high hopes you do. The power asymmetry and the MAGA playbook does not suggest much could possibly be accomplished. In the Mormon church, the 12 will meet with troubled members in certain circumstances, and their interest is to really try and understand the member and such meetings are not connected with any discipline. I see a very low chance that this is that kind of meeting, and most likely Xi Jingping bringing in Jack Ma for a little talk. Does Maher want to join them, shut up, or be crushed? Do you see any other option?
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