Why The Progressive Movement Should File For 501c3 Status

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Gadianton wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 12:22 am
Hound wrote:Maher and Cuomo are engaged in a conversation about Maher's forthcoming dinner at the White House, which he has consented to attend with Trump. The topics covered in this interview align perfectly with what I have been attempting to express on this board for months.
Yes, he's going to the dinner. I'm really curious how that plays out. I don't have the same high hopes you do. The power asymmetry and the MAGA playbook does not suggest much could possibly be accomplished. In the Mormon church, the 12 will meet with troubled members in certain circumstances, and their interest is to really try and understand the member and such meetings are not connected with any discipline. I see a very low chance that this is that kind of meeting, and most likely Xi Jingping bringing in Jack Ma for a little talk. Does Maher want to join them, shut up, or be crushed? Do you see any other option?
It's quite clear how Maher will respond following his meeting with Trump at the White House, which is why the far left is so upset about Maher agreeing to this meeting.

If Maher avoids a direct meeting with Trump, the progressives can maintain their narrative and continue to leverage Maher's critiques of Trump to their advantage. However, if Maher departs the White House after his meeting with Trump and expresses more favorable opinions about Trump than he did prior to their encounter, it would be considered a win for Trump.

The progressives are understandably frustrated that Maher consented to the meeting initially. Here’s what is going to unfold, take note of my words. Maher will exit the meeting and inform everyone that Trump is much more pleasant and approachable in person than his television persona suggests. He'll express that while he doesn't align with Trump's approach to steering the country towards a more conservative path, he genuinely thinks that Trump is committed to positioning the nation for future success. Maher will continue to criticize Trump on his show, but will adopt a more accepting stance by praising him when their views align. This is the outcome that will unfold, marking a significant triumph for Trump.

Trump is a businessman who recognizes that success is achieved through small victories, like the favorable result from the meeting with Maher. There's no chance Trump will upset Maher during that meeting. We have already observed Trump gaining favor with Musk, Kennedy and Rogan. Maher will commend Trump for the meeting, describing it as highly productive in his perspective, while still maintaining his affiliation with the Democrat party. It could potentially be more detrimental for the Democrats in 2026 than if Maher chose to leave the party entirely.

A picture of Maher and Trump standing side by side in the Oval office is also a victory for Trump.
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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 12:32 pm
We have already observed Trump gaining favor with … Rogan.
The Administration shouldn’t take that for granted. Even Rogan has reservations about how the ‘deportations’ effort is being executed. In response to the Trump Admin accidentally deporting someone with no record, to a foreign prison, and now just throwing up their hands and saying, ‘Welp, too late!’, Rogan had this to say:

How long before that guy can get out? Can we figure out how to get them out? Is there any plan in place to alert the authorities that they’ve made a horrible mistake and correct it?”

“It’s so dumb. And this is the thing we’re seeing with the Signal thing, and this is the thing we’re seeing with this. It’s like, I don’t know if it’s been brought to their attention.

“I mean, I would assume someone’s alerted them to the fact that they might have rounded up this just random hairdresser and accused him of being a gang member,
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Tue Apr 01, 2025 12:32 pm
A picture of Maher and Trump standing side by side in the Oval office is also a victory for Trump.
Probably not. Trump has been photographed standing next to or shaking hands with a lot of people that he later says he ‘doesn’t know’. : D
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Hound wrote:A picture of Maher and Trump standing side by side in the Oval office is also a victory for Trump.
I wouldn't bet against the outcome you propose. I think it's a likely outcome. Do you think such an outcome is also a win for the non-woke portion of the Democratic Party that you wish to see rise again?

Do you think such an outcome will make a Democrat victory more likely in midterms or 2028?

If you had the chance to coach Maher on his dealings with Trump and MAGA for the dinner and afterward, how would you advise him to behave in order to secure the best possible outcome for the non-woke portion of the Democratic party?
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Sat Mar 29, 2025 1:04 pm
In my opinion, we as Democrats should distance ourselves from the militant radicals within our party. They could then establish their own party or pursue 501c3 status to become a recognized legal religion under current U.S. law. This allows individuals who adhere to an extreme belief system to practice their faith freely, appoint their militant God, and share their messages about the perceived malevolence of the so-called orange Satan running the country.
But the GOP has shown that you can be a militant cult without being a religion. So . . .
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Gadianton wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:25 pm
Hound wrote:A picture of Maher and Trump standing side by side in the Oval office is also a victory for Trump.
I wouldn't bet against the outcome you propose. I think it's a likely outcome. Do you think such an outcome is also a win for the non-woke portion of the Democratic Party that you wish to see rise again?
Total win for Democrats. Trump agreeing to be photographed with Maher and to have to feed him fancy food will transmit the idea to the general public that Trump is feeling a need to cater to Democratic-leaning public figures. It signals weakness by Trump, the highest politician in the land, being forced to act civil and deferential to one of his critics. ; )
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It is my impression that a lot of Democrats don't like Maher anyway, so I doubt it will have much impact other than, "See, I told you about that guy!"
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Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Apr 02, 2025 7:33 pm
It is my impression that a lot of Democrats don't like Maher anyway, so I doubt it will have much impact other than, "See, I told you about that guy!"
Maher was a lot sharper when he was younger. He's turning into a grumpy old fart. He says he hasn't changed but that his party has, but the fact is both have changed.

I don't ever remember him expressing anti-scientific rhetoric before COVID. When he talks about doctors lately, he sounds like a lunatic.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Apr 02, 2025 4:13 pm
Hound of Heaven wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 1:04 pm
In my opinion, we as Democrats should distance ourselves from the militant radicals within our party. They could then establish their own party or pursue 501c3 status to become a recognized legal religion under current U.S. law. This allows individuals who adhere to an extreme belief system to practice their faith freely, appoint their militant God, and share their messages about the perceived malevolence of the so-called orange Satan running the country.
But the GOP has shown that you can be a militant cult without being a religion. So . . .
Being called an extreme leftist who should start a "progressive" religion is not only hilariously stupid and inaccurate, but it's pretty rich coming from a member of the Trump cult.

Projection is the Trumpy thing to do, and his fans do it on the regular.
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I see Hound found the time to respond multiple times to nomo's joke thread and then start a new thread without responding to this:
me wrote:I wouldn't bet against the outcome you propose. I think it's a likely outcome. Do you think such an outcome is also a win for the non-woke portion of the Democratic Party that you wish to see rise again?

Do you think such an outcome will make a Democrat victory more likely in midterms or 2028?

If you had the chance to coach Maher on his dealings with Trump and MAGA for the dinner and afterward, how would you advise him to behave in order to secure the best possible outcome for the non-woke portion of the Democratic party?
Of course he can't answer these question. A Republican wearing Democrats clothing. Until these questions are answered, I'm for one, boycotting any further threads he starts.
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