Mormon church to build unconstitutional seminary building on public high school campus
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Mormon church to build unconstitutional seminary building on public high school campus
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/lo ... 796799007/#
Mormons are capitalizing on the ongoing erosion of constitutional ideals, signing a deal with a public school board to build their indoctrination center right on campus.
It was likely helped along by several of the school board members being former graduates of BYU.
Mormons are capitalizing on the ongoing erosion of constitutional ideals, signing a deal with a public school board to build their indoctrination center right on campus.
It was likely helped along by several of the school board members being former graduates of BYU.
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Re: Mormon church to build unconstitutional seminary building on public high school campus
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... ng=eng#p49“We declare that from principle and policy, we favor:
The absolute separation of church and state;
No domination of the state by the church;
No church interference with the functions of the state;
No state interference with the functions of the church, or with the free exercise of religion;
The absolute freedom of the individual from the domination of ecclesiastical authority in political affairs;
The equality of all churches before the law.” (In Clark, Messages of the First Presidency, 4:153.)
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... ce-societyIndeed, the proper separation of church and state has the effect of strengthening religious institutions and the broader community. To exert its positive influence, religious organizations and individuals must maintain space from government — physical, social and legal — to freely practice their faith. This enables religious institutions to express their message, determine who they are, and live out their convictions in meaningful ways. Religious space must continue to be respected, and religion should not be sequestered.
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Re: Mormon church to build unconstitutional seminary building on public high school campus
This from the article was interesting:drumdude wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 6:24 pmhttps://www.azcentral.com/story/news/lo ... 796799007/#
Mormons are capitalizing on the ongoing erosion of constitutional ideals, signing a deal with a public school board to build their indoctrination center right on campus.
It was likely helped along by several of the school board members being former graduates of BYU.
Except for 6am to 6pm, Monday through Friday, when the LDS church is 'leasing' it....The school district can lease the space to other, nonreligious organizations or use it for district purposes, he said...

My high school had an LDS seminary building directly across the street, but it wasn't on school property. Why is this happening? There must be something behind it. I'm sure it involves financially benefitting the LDS church, given their track record.
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Re: Mormon church to build unconstitutional seminary building on public high school campus
Some additional perspective:Marcus wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 7:34 pmThis from the article was interesting:drumdude wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 6:24 pmhttps://www.azcentral.com/story/news/lo ... 796799007/#
Mormons are capitalizing on the ongoing erosion of constitutional ideals, signing a deal with a public school board to build their indoctrination center right on campus.
It was likely helped along by several of the school board members being former graduates of BYU.Except for 6am to 6pm, Monday through Friday, when the LDS church is 'leasing' it....The school district can lease the space to other, nonreligious organizations or use it for district purposes, he said...![]()
My high school had an LDS seminary building directly across the street, but it wasn't on school property. Why is this happening? There must be something behind it. I'm sure it involves financially benefitting the LDS church, given their track record.
https://www.kgun9.com/news/community-in ... -on-campus
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Re: Mormon church to build unconstitutional seminary building on public high school campus
Board Rule #10MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:48 pmSome additional perspective:Marcus wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 7:34 pm
This from the article was interesting:
Except for 6am to 6pm, Monday through Friday, when the LDS church is 'leasing' it.![]()
My high school had an LDS seminary building directly across the street, but it wasn't on school property. Why is this happening? There must be something behind it. I'm sure it involves financially benefitting the LDS church, given their track record.
https://www.kgun9.com/news/community-in ... -on-campus
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I’ve reported your rule breach. Again.Do not EVER "link-and-run." If you post a link to something, always explain what's at the other end of the link, why it's important, and what you hope other readers / viewers learn from it. RULE OF THUMB: If it's not worth your time to describe it, then it's not worth our time to click on it.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: Mormon church to build unconstitutional seminary building on public high school campus
I mentioned that the article has additional perspective. The original link would not even open on my computer as there was a paywall in place. For this reason, I added the additional link option. I would assume that because it was from a different outlet that it might add additional information to the article that I couldn't even link to.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:05 pmBoard Rule #10:MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:48 pmSome additional perspective:
https://www.kgun9.com/news/community-in ... -on-campus
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I’ve reported your rule breach. Again.Do not EVER "link-and-run." If you post a link to something, always explain what's at the other end of the link, why it's important, and what you hope other readers / viewers learn from it. RULE OF THUMB: If it's not worth your time to describe it, then it's not worth our time to click on it.
If you feel like this is worth pursuing and making an issue out of, go for it. It would have been helpful for drumdude to link to a page that actually opens.

My link does. That should result in a "thank you!"
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Re: Mormon church to build unconstitutional seminary building on public high school campus
Back to the thread:
Marcus wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 7:34 pmThis from the article was interesting:drumdude wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 6:24 pmhttps://www.azcentral.com/story/news/lo ... 796799007/#
Mormons are capitalizing on the ongoing erosion of constitutional ideals, signing a deal with a public school board to build their indoctrination center right on campus.
It was likely helped along by several of the school board members being former graduates of BYU.Except for 6am to 6pm, Monday through Friday, when the LDS church is 'leasing' it....The school district can lease the space to other, nonreligious organizations or use it for district purposes, he said...![]()
My high school had an LDS seminary building directly across the street, but it wasn't on school property. Why is this happening? There must be something behind it. I'm sure it involves financially benefitting the LDS church, given their track record.
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Re: Mormon church to build unconstitutional seminary building on public high school campus
Does this signal LDS willingness to aggressively push their agenda wherever they have some egress in the community? RLUIPA may let them pierce the separation of Church and State barrier.
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Re: Mormon church to build unconstitutional seminary building on public high school campus
Deleted because I was wrong.
Last edited by I Have Questions on Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: Mormon church to build unconstitutional seminary building on public high school campus
for what it's worth, I hit a paywall the first couple of times I tried the link. The third time I hit no paywall (the site just complained about my ad blocker). Just for kicks, I tried again and hit a paywall. (I had been fiddling with my VPN between attempts, which may have had something to do it.)I Have Questions wrote: ↑Sat Apr 12, 2025 10:13 amIt wasn’t behind a paywall for me. (I’ve just opened the link again, no problem). I don’t think it was behind a paywall for drumdude or Marcus or Moksha. Are you in some kind of secure facility with limited access privileges?