Trump is not a fascist

[canpakes]

Osama bin Laden succeeded beyond his widest dreams, though he did not live to see his success. He turned the Republican Party into a violent extremist movement that is hellbent on destroying the United States …

Somehow, Republicans at even the highest levels of our government have also now decided that they’re going to proudly run with displaying the civility, decorum and maturity of the local high school’s pot dealer.

[Kishkumen]

Somehow, Republicans at even the highest levels of our government have also now decided that they’re going to proudly run with displaying the civility, decorum and maturity of the local high school’s pot dealer.

Well, we knew at the outset that this iteration of a Trump presidency would more perfectly reflect the childishness, pettiness, and smallness of mind and spirit of its head.

[canpakes]

Absolutely. His fellow firefighters showed up en masse at his funeral. But the most touching part was at his wake. His fellow firefighters stood guard for his entire wake, two at a time and in full dress uniform, changing shifts every half hour. If you've never seen that (as I hadn't) it is astonishing to observe. His son, who is now also a firefighter, took the first and last shift, along with a very close family friend.

Another friend, a retired firefighter now living in Florida, stood in the forested area above his burial location, and played the bagpipes, acting as 'the lone piper.' We owe a debt forever to the NYC firefighters who fought for us that day and sacrificed so much.

Thank you for sharing that. It is moving just to read about it. I agree with you that there is a forever debt we owe to those brave people.

I’m cross-posting your response from the other thread, Kish, to here as it relates to your last post in this thread. It got me thinking about how the Trump Administration would deal with any sort of critical situation or tragedy. The mix of chaos, lack of strategic thought, and dependence on their toxic mash of gaslighting, outright stupid lies and immaturity has me desperately hoping that our country will never be tested in any significant way that would require an intelligent response from credible people capable of bringing out our best, because we are so not ready for that with the current gang.

[Markk]

The truth is, as I showed you, is that the gang field report reads that at the time of his arrest in 2019, 6years ago, he had no criminal history, then goes on to explain why he was arrested, and shows he is a member of MS-13 and associating with MS-13 members; who are only allowed to associate with fellow members or recruits.

It doesn’t ‘show’ that. The report only alleges that some other unidentified person claimed that Garcia was a gang member.

The point Kish is making is valid, and applicable to your own situation. You’ve spoken about a darker time in your own history, and if your skin color was perhaps just a bit less pale, any number of ‘informants’ (maybe business competitors?) could make the same accusation of your gang affiliation today, maybe after being paid a small handful of cash to do so. If that were to happen, would you see your own deportation to a foreign prison, without due process, as acceptable? The status of your own citizenship is irrelevant as the Trump Administration has both (1) acknowledged that it initially made a mistake (but is now backpedaling, as it is incapable of actually sticking to that honest assessment and then righting its own mistakes) yet doesn’t care, and (2) that it is now also exploring the idea of sending citizens that it regards as ‘bad hombres’ out of the country.

You’re doing your best to avoid the actual issue by attempting to drill into the past of a person that this Administration clearly states - within your own link - has no criminal record, and you’re doing so to justify ignoring due process. How far are you willing to go in rejecting our laws and Constitution in order to protect political ego?

So are you saying, that on his DHS arrest record, that reads he had no previous arrests, somehow erases the fact he had then been arrested, detained, and even had bond hearing, which was denied, because he had failures to appear on traffic violations, which in itself is a misdemeanor, in which he could get a large fine and jail time?

Kish said he had no criminal history, while pasting ignorantly a very misleading snippet of the DHS report detailing his arrest, not understanding the fact he now has a criminal history, so how is that a valid point?

You are now doing the same thing by saying he has no criminal record, based on misreading his actual criminal record or you did not read the link I pasted. Here is a cut and past from The DHS report and record....

"At approximately 1930, the subjects were arrested and transported to the Howard County Detention center for overnight placement. On March 29, 2019, the subject was transported to the Baltimore Field Office for processing without incident."

Here are the documents again.

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline

[canpakes]

It doesn’t ‘show’ that. The report only alleges that some other unidentified person claimed that Garcia was a gang member.

The point Kish is making is valid, and applicable to your own situation. You’ve spoken about a darker time in your own history, and if your skin color was perhaps just a bit less pale, any number of ‘informants’ (maybe business competitors?) could make the same accusation of your gang affiliation today, maybe after being paid a small handful of cash to do so. If that were to happen, would you see your own deportation to a foreign prison, without due process, as acceptable? The status of your own citizenship is irrelevant as the Trump Administration has both (1) acknowledged that it initially made a mistake (but is now backpedaling, as it is incapable of actually sticking to that honest assessment and then righting its own mistakes) yet doesn’t care, and (2) that it is now also exploring the idea of sending citizens that it regards as ‘bad hombres’ out of the country.

You’re doing your best to avoid the actual issue by attempting to drill into the past of a person that this Administration clearly states - within your own link - has no criminal record, and you’re doing so to justify ignoring due process. How far are you willing to go in rejecting our laws and Constitution in order to protect political ego?

So are you saying, that on his DHS arrest record, that reads he had no previous arrests, somehow erases the fact he had then been arrested, detained, and even had bond hearing, which was denied, because he had failures to appear on traffic violations, which in itself is a misdemeanor, in which he could get a large fine and jail time?

Kish said he had no criminal history, while pasting ignorantly a very misleading snippet of the DHS report detailing his arrest, not understanding the fact he now has a criminal history, so how is that a valid point?

You are now doing the same thing by saying he has no criminal record, based on misreading his actual criminal record or you did not read the link I pasted. Here is a cut and past from The DHS report and record....

"At approximately 1930, the subjects were arrested and transported to the Howard County Detention center for overnight placement. On March 29, 2019, the subject was transported to the Baltimore Field Office for processing without incident."

Here are the documents again.

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline

I read the link. Did you? Garcia was arrested for his non-citizen status.

What happened after that point?

[Markk]

So are you saying, that on his DHS arrest record, that reads he had no previous arrests, somehow erases the fact he had then been arrested, detained, and even had bond hearing, which was denied, because he had failures to appear on traffic violations, which in itself is a misdemeanor, in which he could get a large fine and jail time?

Kish said he had no criminal history, while pasting ignorantly a very misleading snippet of the DHS report detailing his arrest, not understanding the fact he now has a criminal history, so how is that a valid point?

You are now doing the same thing by saying he has no criminal record, based on misreading his actual criminal record or you did not read the link I pasted. Here is a cut and past from The DHS report and record....

"At approximately 1930, the subjects were arrested and transported to the Howard County Detention center for overnight placement. On March 29, 2019, the subject was transported to the Baltimore Field Office for processing without incident."

Here are the documents again.

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline

I read the link. Did you? Garcia was arrested for his non-citizen status.

What happened after that point?

Well, So then Kish, and you were wrong....he had and has a criminal record, and Kish was either being deceitful or just ignorant, as you were. And he also has failures to appears on his record, which are crimes. So after his arrest, he has a criminal record. I corrected both of you.

It does not matter what happened after that point, a protective order does not erase his criminal history from 2019 on.

[Bret Ripley]

I read the link. Did you? Garcia was arrested for his non-citizen status.

What happened after that point?

Well, So then Kish, and you were wrong....he had and has a criminal record, and Kish was either being deceitful or just ignorant, as you were. And he also has failures to appears on his record, which are crimes. So after his arrest, he has a criminal record. I corrected both of you.

Being arrested doesn't give someone a criminal record. Being convicted of a crime gives someone a criminal record. I shall refrain from crowing about correcting you because that would be weird.

[Hound of Heaven]

Osama bin Laden succeeded beyond his widest dreams, though he did not live to see his success. He turned the Republican Party into a violent extremist movement that is hellbent on destroying the United States …

Somehow, Republicans at even the highest levels of our government have also now decided that they’re going to proudly run with displaying the civility, decorum and maturity of the local high school’s pot dealer.

I can't recall in which thread I discussed how images of the progressive Senator meeting with an MS-13 gang member would be detrimental to the Democratic Party, but the image you shared is certainly going to have a significant impact on the Democrats in 2026.

What will it take for Democrat strategists to realize that 89% of Americans support Trump in deporting illegal aliens? Americans may not find common ground on many issues, with 89% approval, but they do when it comes to illegal aliens. Therefore, when a progressive Senator travels to a foreign country to meet with an illegal alien, and expresses a desire to bring that person back to America, it suggests that those advising the Democratic Party are leading the party toward its own demise. The actions of this Senator are utterly baffling if winning future elections holds any significance.

[Molok]

Are you getting paid to glaze Trump’s nuts this much? I hope so, even prostitutes are smart enough to collect a fee for their services.

[Kishkumen]

Are you getting paid to glaze Trump’s nuts this much? I hope so, even prostitutes are smart enough to collect a fee for their services.

IKR?