The physical logistics of the Mormon belief in literal resurrection

[drumdude]

I would love to be in complete control of when I die and what I accomplish. But we seem to live in a world where we evolved by natural selection (which people forget means trillions of animals died ruthless painful tortuous deaths) and where organisms are recycled to literally be the atoms in the bodies for the next generations. We are waves in the ocean.

I find some solace in the fact that we are all one in that real physical sense.

And if you look at it from purely a "physical sense" that's really the only possibility, isn't it?

Regards,
MG

I could look at it from a Harry Potter magic sense, or a Star Trek sci-fi sense too, but those wouldn’t make it real. I think the Scientology, Mormon, Muslim, and Zoroastrian sense are also not real.

[Moksha]

I could look at it from a Harry Potter magic sense, or a Star Trek sci-fi sense too, but those wouldn’t make it real. I think the Scientology, Mormon, Muslim, and Zoroastrian sense are also not real.

Just remember, Santa imparted some very important values, such as being nice rather than naughty.

[MG 2.0]

And if you look at it from purely a "physical sense" that's really the only possibility, isn't it?

Regards,
MG

I could look at it from a Harry Potter magic sense, or a Star Trek sci-fi sense too, but those wouldn’t make it real. I think the Scientology, Mormon, Muslim, and Zoroastrian sense are also not real.

Is there life/existence after death?

If you're not sure...that simple admission opens the door.

Many people have knocked on that door, the door has opened, and it's made all the difference.

And it doesn't have to be 'just' Mormonism on the other side.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

I could look at it from a Harry Potter magic sense, or a Star Trek sci-fi sense too, but those wouldn’t make it real. I think the Scientology, Mormon, Muslim, and Zoroastrian sense are also not real.

Just remember, Santa imparted some very important values, such as being nice rather than naughty.

We know the origins of Santa. St. Nicholas didn't make any claims to being divine.

Jesus did.

You're not comparing Santa to God, right?

Regards,
MG

[drumdude]

Just remember, Santa imparted some very important values, such as being nice rather than naughty.

We know the origins of Santa. St. Nicholas didn't make any claims to being divine.

Jesus did.

You're not comparing Santa to God, right?

Regards,
MG

The lack of evidence for both makes them very similar beliefs.

[huckelberry]

Drum dude I can't find any sense in the idea of Jesus's atonement being to appease God. Why would God suffer to appease himself? I am pretty sure the atonement is to help us, stop us from destroying ourselves.

[MG 2.0]

We know the origins of Santa. St. Nicholas didn't make any claims to being divine.

Jesus did.

You're not comparing Santa to God, right?

Regards,
MG

The lack of evidence for both makes them very similar beliefs.

No it doesn't. Causation because of correlation? I don't think so.

Regards,
MG

[drumdude]

The lack of evidence for both makes them very similar beliefs.

No it doesn't. Causation because of correlation? I don't think so.

Regards,
MG

MG,

I'm not claiming a causal relationship. I'm claiming that they're so similar, that some Christian parents eschew teaching their kids about Santa. Because when the kids grow up to find out Santa isn't real, they can apply the same logic to Xenu, Yaweh, Vishnu, Zeus, etc etc.

[drumdude]

Drum dude I can't find any sense in the idea of Jesus's atonement being to appease God. Why would God suffer to appease himself? I am pretty sure the atonement is to help us, stop us from destroying ourselves.

Paul viewed Christ's death as an act of atonement, specifically highlighting it as a sacrifice that appeases God's wrath for sin. He emphasized that Jesus died for our sins, signifying a satisfaction of divine justice and a means of reconciliation between God and humanity.

Paul used the term "propitiation" (hilastērion in Greek) to describe Christ's sacrifice, signifying a way to appease God's anger towards sin. This idea aligns with the ancient practice of sacrifice, where an offering would be made to satisfy divine justice.

Christ's death story didn't pop out of nowhere, it was a natural evolution of the more ancient custom of human and animal sacrifice. Your even more modern interpretation is yet another evolution designed to distance even further from the roots of the practice of humans appeasing Gods. I think it's softer and more rational, but it doesn't account for the origins of the belief and why it exists in the first place.

[MG 2.0]

No it doesn't. Causation because of correlation? I don't think so.

Regards,
MG

MG,

I'm not claiming a causal relationship. I'm claiming that they're so similar, that some Christian parents eschew teaching their kids about Santa. Because when the kids grow up to find out Santa isn't real, they can apply the same logic to Xenu, Yaweh, Vishnu, Zeus, etc etc.

Jesus and Santa Claus are not on par with each other. Apples and oranges. They are not even both fruits for that matter, so to speak. If that's not readily seen on your end then I suppose we have no where to go with this.

Regards,
MG