All 7 Of Jacob Hansen's Siblings Have Left The Church

[MG 2.0]

I think you're obligated to do your own footwork on this, Morley.

Aren't you leaning entirely on ChatGPT and Hansen here?

Like I said, we have a poster here who dedicated 3.5 hours of his life taking on Hansen point by point. Have you watched the video, MG?

I'm assuming you are referring to an RFM discussion on this particular presentation?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coi2zBlUe1Q&t=122s

If so, please post the link with the time stamp where RFM is discussing Jacob's arguments in the particular presentation linked to at the beginning of the thread.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

In an online forum a poster posted a response that he received from an A.I. chatbot after asking the following question: The Mormon apologist, Jacob Hansen, produces youtube videos defending the LDS Church. What are six things that are wrong with them? He then received this lengthy response. Generally speaking what are the weaknesses in this A.I response? Here it is:

LOL! Too precious for words.

Apparently.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

A rather shocking admission from Jacob Hansen. Jacob also mentions that about half of his extended family have left the church.

The fact that all of his online content hasn’t managed to persuade any of them to return to church speaks volumes. I know it's hard to believe, but maybe they just don't believe all of Jacob's brilliant apologetics? Maybe Jacob's siblings need to start reading all those Interpreter articles that come out every single Friday?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coi2zBlUe1Q&t=122s

I imagine that the viewing of Hansen's Youtube presentations was what convinced them to leave. The weak apologetics that dominate the discourse these days are more damning to the Church than any critic ever was.

Number one, you may be imagining wrong. Number two, you seem to be associating Jacob Hansen's apologetics with...what?

You need to do some more footwork on this other than throw up some A.I. responses which have actually been taken down as being unreasonable.

I think Jacob has done good work for Mormon apologetics. And no, I'm not going to do what I'm asking you to do. You're the one that by association called Hansen's work more damning to the church than that of any critic.

I think you're going to have to put some more meat on the bones in regards to your accusation or take it back.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

I think you're obligated to do your own footwork on this, Morley.

Aren't you leaning entirely on ChatGPT and Hansen here?

No. My own experience in this regard parallels Hansen's.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

A rather shocking admission from Jacob Hansen. Jacob also mentions that about half of his extended family have left the church.

The fact that all of his online content hasn’t managed to persuade any of them to return to church speaks volumes. I know it's hard to believe, but maybe they just don't believe all of Jacob's brilliant apologetics? Maybe Jacob's siblings need to start reading all those Interpreter articles that come out every single Friday?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coi2zBlUe1Q&t=122s

This presentation...from what I can see...outlines what may have happened in the case of his siblings. The inverted pyramid. They may have gone about things in such a way that they were almost bound to come out the wrong end when it comes to 'testimony' of the restoration.

Sandy ground. I think this is not uncommon with those that leave the church.

I'm glad you posted this link. I don't religiously watch Jacob Hansen's channel. But when I have, I'm impressed. I would recommend this particular presentation to those that might very possibly have things back-assed backwards as they are investigating the truth claims of the LDS church.

Regards,
MG

[Marcus]

In an online forum a poster posted a response that he received from an A.I. chatbot after asking the following question: The Mormon apologist, Jacob Hansen, produces youtube videos defending the LDS Church. What are six things that are wrong with them? He then received this lengthy response. Generally speaking what are the weaknesses in this A.I response? Here it is:

LOL! Too precious for words.

As is this from the same poster:

...Your prompt to GPT was actually the wrong prompt. I think that could only happen if you either didn't really listen ...or totally misunderstood...

You wasted some bandwidth by asking the wrong question....

I think your ChatGPT inquiry failed. Prompts do matter, don't they?

...watch them for yourself without relying on A.I. input. As it is, the responses to your A.I. ...shows some inadequacy in the responses.

... Try again...

The lack of self-awareness is so bizarre you just have to laugh.

[MG 2.0]

LOL! Too precious for words.

As is this from the same poster:

...Your prompt to GPT was actually the wrong prompt. I think that could only happen if you either didn't really listen ...or totally misunderstood...

You wasted some bandwidth by asking the wrong question....

I think your ChatGPT inquiry failed. Prompts do matter, don't they?

...watch them for yourself without relying on A.I. input. As it is, the responses to your A.I. ...shows some inadequacy in the responses.

... Try again...

The lack of self-awareness is so bizarre you just have to laugh.

Twisted sister.

Laugh...go ahead. It doesn't change anything. Morley is on the wrong end on this one as far as I can tell.

You guys HAVE TO find a way to take Hansen down. The video presentation linked to in this thread is solid. I'm interested in seeing a counter argument other than, "I think Jacob is a poo poo head".

Or the same ol' same ol' horse crap thrown my way.

By the way, I have the common decency to address you as "Marcus". I go by "MG"...let me introduce myself!

You've done that a few times now.

What are YOUR thoughts on the actual content of the video linked to in the first post on this thread?

C'mon, c'mon, I know you have something up in that head of yours that you're dying to share.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

Smoke and mirrors? No substance?

And yes, I am self aware. I'm directing this OUT to where it might belong.

Hmmm...

Regards,
MG

[Marcus]

And
.. bypassing the troll once again...

LOL! Too precious for words.

As is this from the same poster:

...Your prompt to GPT was actually the wrong prompt. I think that could only happen if you either didn't really listen ...or totally misunderstood...

You wasted some bandwidth by asking the wrong question....

I think your ChatGPT inquiry failed. Prompts do matter, don't they?

...watch them for yourself without relying on A.I. input. As it is, the responses to your A.I. ...shows some inadequacy in the responses.

... Try again...

The lack of self-awareness is so bizarre you just have to laugh.

[I Have Questions]

I would recommend that people actually watch...yeah, it takes time...to watch Hansen's presentations. I have not watched all of them but the ones that I have watched I believe have fairly well represented pro and con arguments and especially made clear the actual doctrines of the church without diluting them as will often happen when critics get their hands on things.

Would you be so good as to support this assertion with some cold, hard facts (or non-facts) from his videos? Links, time stamps?

Otherwise, aren't you blowing hot air?