What Will the LDS Church Do?

[Kishkumen]

When the political tide in the U.S. turns and MAGA becomes a "hiss and a by-word" and its notions rejected, will the LDS Church be able to swing back around and claim moral high ground? or will the high concentration of MAGA's among the Mormon population leave Mormonism flat-footed and unable to pivot back towards espousing moral bearings? Maybe the days of Mormons having horns will return.

I would like to see the LDS Church decry the Trump Antichrist, but I am not seeing it. I am impressed by the Mormon conservative politicians and judges who have opposed Trump. The Church itself, however, has been eerily silent.

[drumdude]

How could the prophets, seers, and revelators ever have seen this coming?

[huckelberry]

I cannot help but wonder if this messianic view is more specific or part of an expected narrative beyond we think he is swell and on our side.
I incline to think Trump is antichrist. I should qualify noting I doubt antichrist is just one promised individual. Instead it is rather more a role a person may adopt if it fits their purposes.

I think any clear-eyed view of the Trump phenomenon would have to place him in the anti-Christ category. Only in the heretical view of certain brands of modern American Christianity could he ever be considered a messianic figure. I am aware of the comparison to Cyrus, when I say that.

I have heard of a Cyrus comparison. I find it difficult to think of much they have ln common. Well they are were humans in positions with political power like a wide variety of other individuals in history.

[Philo Sofee]

The Pope slammed J.D. Vance on being so wicked against migrants and strangers in the land, more or less on his death bed. I am curious if Nelson has yet spoken up against the same evil of the Trump Presidency as Sodom and Gomorrah had... Is President Nelson in tune at all on anything these days? Is Oaks? Any of the 12? We see pure unadulterated evil and stupidity leading our land of Godly inspired Constitutional freedom into pure kingship and bondage, where the Book of Mormon itself forbids Kingship in America, and not a peep from the prophets, apostles or seers? What a strange thing in the land.....

[Dr. Shades]

I am curious if Nelson has yet spoken up against the same evil of the Trump Presidency as Sodom and Gomorrah had... and not a peep from the prophets, apostles or seers?

They haven't uttered a peep for at least a century and a half. As well they shouldn't, to be in compliance with their own 12th Article of Faith. Another reason they shouldn't utter a peep is because religion needs to stay the Hell out of politics.

As I said elsewhere, the LDS church is now a worldwide church, so if they speak out against Trump they'll have to speak out against a plethora of other distasteful political leaders all across the world. And if they do so, they'll jeopardize the livelihoods, and perhaps the very lives, of their own members living under the yoke of such politicians.

Besides, we don't need them to "speak up." We can figure things out on our own and don't need their help.

[I Have Questions]

I am curious if Nelson has yet spoken up against the same evil of the Trump Presidency as Sodom and Gomorrah had... and not a peep from the prophets, apostles or seers?

They haven't uttered a peep for at least a century and a half.

Yes they have. They’ve uttered plenty of peeps on the same-sex marriage political debate, for example. They uttered plenty of peeps on the Equality Act. They uttered peeps on the American government’s plan of vaccinations against COVID. They even uttered a barely audible peep on Donald’s deportation plans.

[Dr. Shades]

They haven't uttered a peep for at least a century and a half.

Yes they have. They’ve uttered plenty of peeps on the same-sex marriage political debate, for example. They uttered plenty of peeps on the Equality Act. They uttered peeps on the American government’s plan of vaccinations against COVID. They even uttered a barely audible peep on Donald’s deportation plans.

Oops; allow me to clarify:

They haven't uttered a peep in denunciation of a specific political leader.

[Jersey Girl]

When the political tide in the U.S. turns and MAGA becomes a "hiss and a by-word" and its notions rejected, will the LDS Church be able to swing back around and claim moral high ground? or will the high concentration of MAGA's among the Mormon population leave Mormonism flat-footed and unable to pivot back towards espousing moral bearings? Maybe the days of Mormons having horns will return.

I would like to see the LDS Church decry the Trump Antichrist, but I am not seeing it. I am impressed by the Mormon conservative politicians and judges who have opposed Trump. The Church itself, however, has been eerily silent.

I can well understand why you would want that, Kish. I myself wouldn't want any church to take a political position of any kind. Supply teachings and talks regarding discernment, fruits of the Spirit, and such as that, yes. An official postion? I have to say no to that.

[Hound of Heaven]

The sole outcome of this thread is that you've demonstrated a complete case of Trump derangement syndrome!

I find it hard to believe that someone would compose a lengthy post like yours, questioning whether the Mormons might replace their god and prophet with Trump, and that others would respond in a way that appears to support your assumptions.

It seems to me that many individuals posting on this message board might benefit from looking into the concept of Trump derangement syndrome, as it’s hard to believe anyone in a rational state of mind would consider the possibility of Mormons worshipping Trump.

Kishkumen's mention of Nazi Germany in his opening post clearly indicates that he is merely looking to provoke a reaction.

Once I finish this post, I plan to look into whether Robert Kennedy has discovered a vaccine that can treat those suffering from Trump derangement syndrome. If he has, perhaps Dr. Shades will permit me to distribute the vaccine to the majority of board members affected by this condition.

This thread stands out as one of the most misguided discussions I've encountered on this board. The absence of any challenge to kishkumen's post suggests that it serves more as a means of mental release rather than a genuine dialogue about the issues at hand.

Mormons are wonderful people. Stop being ignorant, Kishkumen. TDS is real!

[I Have Questions]

Kishkumen's mention of Nazi Germany in his opening post clearly indicates that he is merely looking to provoke a reaction.

No. it’s a specific parallel between the Church staying silent during the nationalist Hitler regime, and it staying silent now during the nationalist Trump regime. Kishkumen might be many things, Tabloid reaction provocateur is not one of them.