"Could you kindly reskewer?"

[Marcus]

If I understand correctly how the comment system works, it's not possible for Dan to fake the circled region. That is evidence that at minimum, an account named "gemli" posted the deleted comment that Dan is responding to. What we have to take Dan at his word for is that he is accurately reproducing said post.

If you could verify that, it would be appreciated. Peterson has repeatedly and egregiously plagiarized and he participated in faking the Nygren story, so I'd need actual proof he isn't obfuscating now.

Also, under the circumstances, an additional step of verifying gemli actually said those things is necessary.

I understand wanting to give Peterson the benefit of the doubt, but his history of plagiarizing, denying it, then admitting it when caught the trying to excuse it, AND THEN DOING IT AGAIN, MULTIPLE TIMES, does NOT indicate we are dealing with an honest person. I was truly shocked that a professor at BYU would plagiarize the way he does, but you have to take that into account when looking at issues like this.

[I Have Questions]

If I understand correctly how the comment system works, it's not possible for Dan to fake the circled region. That is evidence that at minimum, an account named "gemli" posted the deleted comment that Dan is responding to. What we have to take Dan at his word for is that he is accurately reproducing said post.

If you could verify that, it would be appreciated. Peterson has repeatedly and egregiously plagiarized and he participated in faking the Nygren story, so I'd need actual proof he isn't obfuscating now.

Also, under the circumstances, an additional step of verifying gemli actually said those things is necessary.

I understand wanting to give Peterson the benefit of the doubt, but his history of plagiarizing, denying it, then admitting it when caught the trying to excuse it, AND THEN DOING IT AGAIN, MULTIPLE TIMES, does NOT indicate we are dealing with an honest person. I was truly shocked that a professor at BYU would plagiarize the way he does, but you have to take that into account when looking at issues like this.

Let’s not forget his role in perpetuating the second Watson Letter con. He’s more than capable of dishonesty.

[drumdude]

I decided to give him another chance here. I went through the process, as Disqus explains it, of reversing the “shadow ban.” I don’t know, however, whether my effort to overturn the “shadow ban” has actually worked. Gemli hasn’t attempted to post again and, no matter how many times I’ve followed the instructions, nothing seems to have changed.

This reminds me of one of my favorite Hitchens' (quoting Hume) quotes:

"Which is more likely — that the whole of the natural order is to be suspended....... or that a Jewish minx should tell a lie?"

I'm sure DCP is correct and the system is either entirely nonfunctional or completely indecipherable and opaque to every average user.

[Marcus]

I decided to give him another chance here. I went through the process, as Disqus explains it, of reversing the “shadow ban.” I don’t know, however, whether my effort to overturn the “shadow ban” has actually worked. Gemli hasn’t attempted to post again and, no matter how many times I’ve followed the instructions, nothing seems to have changed.

This reminds me of one of my favorite Hitchens' (quoting Hume) quotes:

"Which is more likely — that the whole of the natural order is to be suspended....... or that a Jewish minx should tell a lie?"

I'm sure DCP is correct and the system is either entirely nonfunctional or completely indecipherable and opaque to every average user.

And I know for a fact DCP lies and has plagiarized other authors repeatedly and without any admission on his part. So, what's happening? : D

[Moksha]

DCP knows exactly how to do that. This additional lie lends even more credence to the idea that DCP just made up the recent 'gemli' posts to generate interest.

The SeN readership consists of Dittoheads. They would support Dr. Peterson in whatever he does.

[drumdude]

Wow. Last night and, to my surprise, again today I had an unexpected and remarkably unpleasant online encounter with someone whom I once knew. It was really, really nasty. As Palpatine is reported to have said, “The hate is strong with this one.” I hadn’t thought about him in several years. I hope not to think about him again for several years to come. Sigh. Humans can be unappealing.

What a tease!

[Gadianton]

Was there anything, anything at all that he thinks he could have in theory done to prevent the encounter from turning nasty?

I'm not saying he's obligated to prevent the problem. I'd say that he claims to be put off by such encounters, and if this is true, then why not try to prevent them?

I can't think of many confrontations I've had that I couldn't have prevented from getting heated. It's really difficult for me to conceive of an online confrontation that couldn't have been prevented. It's not like in the real world where you might be in the same physical space and there isn't an easy way out.

[Everybody Wang Chung]

Was there anything, anything at all that he thinks he could have in theory done to prevent the encounter from turning nasty?

I'm not saying he's obligated to prevent the problem. I'd say that he claims to be put off by such encounters, and if this is true, then why not try to prevent them?

I can't think of many confrontations I've had that I couldn't have prevented from getting heated. It's really difficult for me to conceive of an online confrontation that couldn't have been prevented. It's not like in the real world where you might be in the same physical space and there isn't an easy way out.

"A soft answer turneth away wrath"

The Afore absolutely could have prevented this from getting heated, but his pride would never let that happen.

[I Have Questions]

Wow. Last night and, to my surprise, again today I had an unexpected and remarkably unpleasant online encounter with someone whom I once knew. It was really, really nasty. As Palpatine is reported to have said, “The hate is strong with this one.” I hadn’t thought about him in several years. I hope not to think about him again for several years to come. Sigh. Humans can be unappealing.

What a tease!

Why is he surprised about being half culpable for an unpleasant exchange? Does he really lack any modicum of self awareness? He calls you Dumb Dude ffs. And Chung is Everybody W.C. in other words a toilet. He can generate unpleasant discourse in an empty room ffs.

[drumdude]

What a tease!

Why is he surprised about being half culpable for an unpleasant exchange? Does he really lack any modicum of self awareness? He calls you Dumb Dude ffs. And Chung is Everybody W.C. in other words a toilet. He can generate unpleasant discourse in an empty room ffs.

Seriously, good point.

I suppose it’s meant to imply to his faithful readers that once their friends leave the church, they should expect them to become increasingly hostile and unhinged as Satan buries himself deeper in their heart. And all the noble Mormon can do is look on with pity.

The only person I can imagine from my life who would make me feel the way DCP does about this person is my ex wife. With Dan it’s probably a very long list.