Poignant lyrics. Thank you for sharing.sock puppet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:05 pmMy experience with religion, which was the LDS church. For me, I would sum up how I felt right before I shook off its mental and life shackles as, "I give, you take. This life that I forsake. Been cheated of my youth. You turned this lie into truth."--lyrics not penned until a handful of years after I had shed Mormonism and had begun to enjoy life.
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Just to be clear, Marcus. I did not write those lyrics. I just appreciate them.Marcus wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:20 pmPoignant lyrics. Thank you for sharing.sock puppet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:05 pmMy experience with religion, which was the LDS church. For me, I would sum up how I felt right before I shook off its mental and life shackles as, "I give, you take. This life that I forsake. Been cheated of my youth. You turned this lie into truth."--lyrics not penned until a handful of years after I had shed Mormonism and had begun to enjoy life.
"Only the atheist realizes how morally objectionable it is for survivors of catastrophe to believe themselves spared by a loving god, while this same God drowned infants in their cribs." Sam Harris
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At 39 minutes Hitchens is presenting his usual worst possible interpretation of theism. So, what's the question?MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:04 pmYou can choose to ignore my link/recommendation. I'm not going to nitpick with you and answer questions coming out the wazoo if you are unwilling to answer question after question I point your way.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:01 amWhat are the important questions?
What do you think the answers to them should be?
In what way(s) are they relevant to the discussion?
It's not a one way street.![]()
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Ah, Metallica. My spouse would have known that!! Still, beautiful, and still, thanks for sharing.sock puppet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 27, 2025 4:22 pmJust to be clear, Marcus. I did not write those lyrics. I just appreciate them.
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This should include the link that I was referring to that MG provided.MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:32 pmAbout thirty-nine and a half minutes in and a bit thereafter an important question or two are asked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngjQs_QjSwc
I question whether Peter's brother ever seriously entertained these questions without a mocking tone of either indifference or haughty arrogance.
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5,139 posts and counting MG’ly…
I’m surprised Shades allows you to continually breach the “don’t link and run” protocol. Perhaps the board rules don’t apply to you? Maybe Shades will comment on why he allows you special licence to do what you want…maybe it’s part of a biography deal…
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Huh?I Have Questions wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:48 amMaybe Shades will comment on why he allows you special licence to do what you want…maybe it’s part of a biography deal…
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Dr. Shades wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:21 pmHuh?I Have Questions wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:48 amMaybe Shades will comment on why he allows you special licence to do what you want…maybe it’s part of a biography deal…
He is forever posting links without commenting on their content, explaining their relevance etc. If he does it and I report it, will you take any action on it? (I’ve now reported the post in this thread where MG’ly links and runs so we can see what happens…)I’m surprised Shades allows you to continually breach the “don’t link and run” protocol.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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I can't speak for Shades. I do appreciate the fact that over the years he has defaulted to freedom of speech and hasn't fallen prey to cancel culture.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:48 am5,139 posts and counting MG’ly…
I’m surprised Shades allows you to continually breach the “don’t link and run” protocol. Perhaps the board rules don’t apply to you? Maybe Shades will comment on why he allows you special licence to do what you want…maybe it’s part of a biography deal…
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He even suffers your incessant derail culture of you trying to stop people discussing your "little precious" LDS church, warts and all.MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:30 pmI can't speak for Shades. I do appreciate the fact that over the years he has defaulted to freedom of speech and hasn't fallen prey to cancel culture.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:48 am5,139 posts and counting MG’ly…
I’m surprised Shades allows you to continually breach the “don’t link and run” protocol. Perhaps the board rules don’t apply to you? Maybe Shades will comment on why he allows you special licence to do what you want…maybe it’s part of a biography deal…
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