LDS Church urges members to call out racism in their congregations

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Re: LDS Church urges members to call out racism in their congregations

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:59 am
MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:56 am
We can all be better, Mr. Wang. Unfortunately you have given no indication that "being better" is your guiding light.

You are a liar and a charlatan. Prove otherwise. P.M. me and let's talk.

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MG, why so much hate and anger tonight? Talk to me brother.

How you are acting goes against almost everything the religion you publicly profess to believe in teaches.
Let's not play word games. I would like to actually meet you in real life. Do you live in Utah? Let's meet. I'll treat you to lunch. :) What do you say?

First, however, you need to P.M. me and show/demonstrate that you are not a liar. Fair enough?

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Mr. Wang,

Waiting for that P.M. Let's talk. Free lunch!

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You got it! PM me.

I’m worried about you. You seem wounded, hurt, angry and lonely. I think something must have happened in life for you to be this way. I have a lot of love and sympathy for you. Hang in there big guy.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:14 am
You got it! PM me.

I’m worried about you. You seem wounded, hurt, angry and lonely. I think something must have happened in life for you to be this way. I have a lot of love and sympathy for you. Hang in there big guy.
Gotcha! Ladies and gentlemen, we have seen a demonstration of behavior on Mr. Wang's part that is described in greater detail in the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) that I earlier referred to:
  • Passive-Aggressive Behavior
  • Emotional Manipulation
  • Attention-Seeking Behavior
  • Pathological or Compulsive Lying
Mr. Wang, there is professional help available...although I'm questioning that where you have come this far without treatment that you may be living a lie and not have inner knowledge of the extent to which your condition has become part of who you are as a person. But it is possible to change.

I think I'm done with you for now. I will check back at a later time to see if you have P.M.'d me in order to connect on more personal level than is possible in a public forum. I'm honestly not expecting you to do so.

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Say what you want about MG, but he is one heck of a missionary.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:35 am
Say what you want about MG, but he is one heck of a missionary.
No P.M.

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Wow. Deja vu?
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:33 am
Say what you want about MG, but he is one heck of a missionary.
He specializes in "implicit (or even explicit) mischaracterizations," as was discussed earlier. His posts above are just more of the same. And yes, as a missionary he certainly is "one heck."
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
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Say what you want about MG, but he is one heck of a missionary.
Passive aggressive.

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huckelberry wrote:
Mon Apr 28, 2025 10:31 pm
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Mon Apr 28, 2025 10:25 pm
Those scriptures remain in the canon to this day, Unapologetically unaltered and unexplained.
Quite true. It might be added the church has not said the ban was a mistake. Instead they say do not teach the old reasons. I think pride and the need to protect authority will keep the scriptures involved. Even the Book of Abraham.
The Church is painted into a corner. Removing the racist scripture from the canon renders all the canon suspect of being errant. Leaving it in renders any leaders call about stopping racism disingenuous.

It’s interesting they’ve gone with leaving racism built in to the doctrine as the most palatable of the two options. There are no black-skinned Apostles. There has never been a black-skinned Apostle. There were no black-skinned speakers at conference. Thomas S. Monson related an anecdote in his biography about his family having to move because dark skinned families were moving into the area. He wasn’t using the example as a “what not to do”. Racism is systemic within Mormonism, from the top down, it’s built into the doctrine, and the leaders keep it in there.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:01 am
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:35 am
Say what you want about MG, but he is one heck of a missionary.
No P.M.

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Still, no P.M.

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