MG Three Point One enters into his Exaltation

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Your mesage to MG was poignant:
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...I’m worried about you. You seem wounded, hurt, angry and lonely. I think something must have happened in life for you to be this way. I have a lot of love and sympathy for you. Hang in there big guy.
Wow. Hopefully he feels your kindness.
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I for one appreciate MG showing us the benefits of Mormonism and how it has molded him into the kind, honest, humble and caring person he is today...
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Dr. Shades wrote:
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MG 2.0 wrote:
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Think of Lectures on Faith. That wasn't a 'one off". ;)
The Lectures on Faith clearly teach that there are only two members of the Godhead.
That is true.

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:34 am
Dr. Shades wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:05 am
The Lectures on Faith clearly teach that there are only two members of the Godhead.
That is true.

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Thus disproving your assertion that "the core doctrines have withstood the test of time." You forgot that part.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:36 am
MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:34 am
That is true.

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Thus disproving your assertion that "the core doctrines have withstood the test of time." You forgot that part.
That’s some great missionary work, MG.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:36 am
MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:34 am
That is true.

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Thus disproving your assertion that "the core doctrines have withstood the test of time." You forgot that part.
I don't see a contradiction when looked at in the whole. Jesus is the Christ. The CofJCofLDS teaches and maintains those doctrines and practices/ordinances necessary for salvation. Prophets receive revelation. God is our Father.

Core doctrines have remained the same while there have been alterations/adjustments in the understanding of the nuts and bolts of the doctrines/ordinances/practices.

And there could be further adjustments that might be necessary in an ongoing restoration.

Granted, critics have a difficult time with that. I mentioned David Whitmer. He was, along with others, unable to adapt/bend with the ongoing restoration because it conflicted with his own entrenched beliefs in what Christianity was 'supposed to be'.

Today, there are other factors involved in some folks maintaining faith when there are changes and adjustments to the church's operations/teachings. I've found that if one is able to keep an open mind and flexible view towards the larger world and the church's place in it that it isn't as difficult to 'roll with the punches', so to speak.

I would suggest this book for those that have an open mind to looking at the place of the LDS church in the modern world:

https://www.amazon.com/Restoration-Gods ... 1953677045

This book further elaborates on some of the things I've barely touched on in this post.

One of the things Mason proposes is that the larger group of humanity outside of the small population which comprises the LDS church is also part of the 'body of Christ' and that all people have their own part to play in the human story/drama. And in this sense the eye cannot say to the heart, I have no need of thee...and so on.

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:49 pm
Dr. Shades wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:36 am
Thus disproving your assertion that "the core doctrines have withstood the test of time." You forgot that part.
Core doctrines have remained the same while there have been alterations/adjustments in the understanding of the nuts and bolts of the doctrines/ordinances/practices.
MG, can you name 5 of the "core doctrines" you claim haven't changed? Thanks!
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 7:11 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:49 pm
Core doctrines have remained the same while there have been alterations/adjustments in the understanding of the nuts and bolts of the doctrines/ordinances/practices.
MG, can you name 5 of the "core doctrines" you claim haven't changed? Thanks!
Mr. Wang, would you like to respond to the substantive and thoughtful responses I've already given on/to this question?

Otherwise, you have nothing to offer here.

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 7:11 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:49 pm
Core doctrines have remained the same while there have been alterations/adjustments in the understanding of the nuts and bolts of the doctrines/ordinances/practices.
MG, can you name 5 of the "core doctrines" you claim haven't changed? Thanks!
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 8:17 pm
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
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MG, can you name 5 of the "core doctrines" you claim haven't changed? Thanks!
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:49 pm
Dr. Shades wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:36 am
Thus disproving your assertion that "the core doctrines have withstood the test of time." You forgot that part.
I don't see a contradiction when looked at in the whole.
Here is the whole:

LECTURES ON FAITH: The Holy Ghost is not a personage, it is merely the mind & will of God. Two members of the godhead.
MODERN Mormonism: The Holy Ghost is a separate entity, a being of spirit only. Three members of the godhead.

That is a HUGE contradiction when looked at in the whole.
Core doctrines have remained the same while there have been alterations/adjustments in the understanding of the nuts and bolts of the doctrines/ordinances/practices.
No, core doctrines have not remained the same. An alteration to the number of beings in the godhead is the most fundamental doctrine you can change.
One of the things Mason proposes is that the larger group of humanity outside of the small population which comprises the LDS church is also part of the 'body of Christ' and that all people have their own part to play in the human story/drama. And in this sense the eye cannot say to the heart, I have no need of thee...and so on.
But the Book of Mormon proposes that there are only two churches: The church of the lamb and the church of the devil, the great and abominable whore of all the earth. So, which carries the greater authority? Mason, or the Book of Mormon?
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