All 7 Of Jacob Hansen's Siblings Have Left The Church

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Re: All 7 Of Jacob Hansen's Siblings Have Left The Church

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huckelberry wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:57 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:56 am

Vulnerability. That seems to be in short supply in these parts. Thank you for sharing your personal story.

May I follow up? When you said that you tried to "recover that testimony', what was that 'thing'...lack of a better word... which you believed you had that you then lost? You then use the word "reaffirm". Reaffirm what? Again, something you had? If you had something then lost it does that mean it never existed in the first place? I'm asking, truly wanting to know what your thought processes were. Did you later question your non-belief in the church because of what you had once had and apparently 'knew' it?

Regards,
MG
Mg I'm sure you thought your question was a pleasant invitation to communication but it is clear that from stig's comments he would naturally have felt it to be disrespectful abrasive and insensitive to what he actually said.

He would have thought, asked and answered, what the heck?
Maybe MG will think in that and offer The Stig an apology…but I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: All 7 Of Jacob Hansen's Siblings Have Left The Church

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I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:32 am
huckelberry wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:57 pm

Mg I'm sure you thought your question was a pleasant invitation to communication but it is clear that from stig's comments he would naturally have felt it to be disrespectful abrasive and insensitive to what he actually said.

He would have thought, asked and answered, what the heck?
Maybe MG will think in that and offer The Stig an apology…but I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting
Go back and read the original posts in which we communicated with each other. I think you will readily (???) see that no apology is necessary.

Regards,
MG
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Re: All 7 Of Jacob Hansen's Siblings Have Left The Church

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:35 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:32 am
Maybe MG will think in that and offer The Stig an apology…but I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting
Go back and read the original posts in which we communicated with each other. I think you will readily (???) see that no apology is necessary.

Regards,
MG
So no apology to The Stig for your rudeness?
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: All 7 Of Jacob Hansen's Siblings Have Left The Church

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I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:53 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:35 pm


Go back and read the original posts in which we communicated with each other. I think you will readily (???) see that no apology is necessary.

Regards,
MG
So no apology to The Stig for your rudeness?
Go back and retrieve the whole conversation between the two of us, cut and paste it here...and let's see if there is any need for apology. You're blowing smoke.

Complete context. That's difficult to do, I know. At least for some.

You and Marcus are blowing a lot of smoke. Unless you have something to really contribute, find something else to do. It would save us...and the board...a lot of wasted time.

Kapeesh?

Regards,
MG
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Re: All 7 Of Jacob Hansen's Siblings Have Left The Church

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:05 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:53 pm
So no apology to The Stig for your rudeness?
Go back and retrieve the whole conversation between the two of us, cut and paste it here...and let's see if there is any need for apology. You're blowing smoke.

Complete context. That's difficult to do, I know. At least for some.

You and Marcus are blowing a lot of smoke. Unless you have something to really contribute, find something else to do. It would save us...and the board...a lot of wasted time.

Kapeesh?

Regards,
MG
So no apology to The Stig for your rudeness?
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: All 7 Of Jacob Hansen's Siblings Have Left The Church

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I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:11 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:05 pm


Go back and retrieve the whole conversation between the two of us, cut and paste it here...and let's see if there is any need for apology. You're blowing smoke.

Complete context. That's difficult to do, I know. At least for some.

You and Marcus are blowing a lot of smoke. Unless you have something to really contribute, find something else to do. It would save us...and the board...a lot of wasted time.

Kapeesh?

Regards,
MG
So no apology to The Stig for your rudeness?
You should apologize to the board and to me for wasting our time. I'm surprised someone else hasn't asked you to shut up.

Regards,
MG
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Re: All 7 Of Jacob Hansen's Siblings Have Left The Church

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Bumping this to get back on track
Marcus wrote:
Mon Apr 28, 2025 4:11 pm
malkie wrote:
Mon Apr 28, 2025 12:34 am

I came to the same conclusion a while ago, and, as a result, have almost completely stopped responding directly to MG.

Unfortunately that means that I sometimes have to leave his implicit (or even explicit) mischaracterizations unanswered. I simply hope that anyone reading his unanswered comments to me can recognise the truth. It's a bit more difficult when he only partly quotes me, but, as my son often says, it is what it is.

by the way, sometimes I find that it helps if I write a reply, save it as a draft, and then delete the draft a few days later [ETA] without posting it.
The conclusion you and Stig are discussing is well warranted. And the mischaracterizations he makes are seen by all and don't fool anyone. Look at his very last post! He couldn't have illustrated his bent for mischaracterizations any better than if he had asked an A.I. to do it for him.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: All 7 Of Jacob Hansen's Siblings Have Left The Church

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Rivendale wrote:
Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:08 am
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:04 am
They both have YouTube channels that you can dig into if you want to know why they came to different conclusions. As it is, it might be the older brother, younger brother thing. I think they both respect each other and Forrest may have given way to Jacob at times. Although when I watched it, I must say, I came away looking at Forrest as being well spoken and having the opportunity to speak when he wanted to. He may have a quieter/subdued personality than Jacob.

I don't know that I would judge Jacob too harshly.

Regards,
MG
Don't link to a video that doesn't support what you say. I refuse to sort through a swamp land of nonsense.
Bumping. Maybe MG will enlighten us all on the contents of that video…
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: All 7 Of Jacob Hansen's Siblings Have Left The Church

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I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:32 pm
Rivendale wrote:
Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:08 am

Don't link to a video that doesn't support what you say. I refuse to sort through a swamp land of nonsense.
Bumping. Maybe MG will enlighten us all on the contents of that video…
Remember, the poster should write how long the video is and point out different subjects they are talking and the minute mark they are talking about it, giving evidence they watched more than the first five minutes.
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Re: All 7 Of Jacob Hansen's Siblings Have Left The Church

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:35 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:32 am
Maybe MG will think in that and offer The Stig an apology…but I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting
Go back and read the original posts in which we communicated with each other. I think you will readily (???) see that no apology is necessary.

Regards,
MG
Stig's reply was harsh so I suppose in a strictly legal sense mg does not need to apologize so he will continue to not understand and this discussion will continue to go nowhere
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