*bump for WangMG 2.0 wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 5:34 pmOf course I am much more familiar with the teachings and doctrines of the LDS Church. Duh, I was BIC. How could I not be?
That being said, I've been around long enough and been curious enough to spend a fair amount of time looking at other world religions and philosophies. Am I an expert on any one of them? Of course not. And neither are you, I would suspect.
I've seen enough, heard enough, and learned enough to see that the CorJCofLDS stands out among world religions as being most likely to be the vehicle by which God has restored lost truths and God given authority, and given additional truth and light which provides the path to salvation/exaltation in the Kingdom of God.
I've not seen anything else that even approaches the 'completeness' of what I see/experience in the doctrines and theology in the LDS Church. And I've not seen anyone here over the years offer up a viable alternative that I think covers all the bases.
Your mileage may vary. I don't fault you for that. As I'm sure you don't fault those that are thinking, rational, and honest members of the church.
Notice I used the word "honest". Are you honest in all your dealings with your fellow man? Those on this board?
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MG,MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Wed May 28, 2025 6:14 pm*bump for WangMG 2.0 wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 5:34 pm
Of course I am much more familiar with the teachings and doctrines of the LDS Church. Duh, I was BIC. How could I not be?
That being said, I've been around long enough and been curious enough to spend a fair amount of time looking at other world religions and philosophies. Am I an expert on any one of them? Of course not. And neither are you, I would suspect.
I've seen enough, heard enough, and learned enough to see that the CorJCofLDS stands out among world religions as being most likely to be the vehicle by which God has restored lost truths and God given authority, and given additional truth and light which provides the path to salvation/exaltation in the Kingdom of God.
I've not seen anything else that even approaches the 'completeness' of what I see/experience in the doctrines and theology in the LDS Church. And I've not seen anyone here over the years offer up a viable alternative that I think covers all the bases.
Your mileage may vary. I don't fault you for that. As I'm sure you don't fault those that are thinking, rational, and honest members of the church.
Notice I used the word "honest". Are you honest in all your dealings with your fellow man? Those on this board?
Regards,
MG
What other religions (out of thousands) were also subjected to a rigorous, thorough and "lengthy investigation process over a long period of time" by you?
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I would suggest that, to make a fair comparison, during the study of each of the other religions, the investigator should choose to believe in that religion every bit as much as s/he believed in Mormonism at the time of the rigorous examination of the LDS religion.Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 11:07 amMG,MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Mon May 26, 2025 5:34 pmOf course I am much more familiar with the teachings and doctrines of the LDS Church. Duh, I was BIC. How could I not be?
That being said, I've been around long enough and been curious enough to spend a fair amount of time looking at other world religions and philosophies. Am I an expert on any one of them? Of course not. And neither are you, I would suspect.
I've seen enough, heard enough, and learned enough to see that the CorJCofLDS stands out among world religions as being most likely to be the vehicle by which God has restored lost truths and God given authority, and given additional truth and light which provides the path to salvation/exaltation in the Kingdom of God.
I've not seen anything else that even approaches the 'completeness' of what I see/experience in the doctrines and theology in the LDS Church. And I've not seen anyone here over the years offer up a viable alternative that I think covers all the bases.
What other religions (out of thousands) were also subjected to a rigorous, thorough and "lengthy investigation process over a long period of time" by you?
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I am puzzling in my mind as to what would be nuttier, studying thousands of different religions (would it not make more sense to generalize to a few main variations?) or attempting to create a strong belief in each, whether divided up into three or four or fifty.malkie wrote: ↑Thu May 29, 2025 3:05 amI would suggest that, to make a fair comparison, during the study of each of the other religions, the investigator should choose to believe in that religion every bit as much as s/he believed in Mormonism at the time of the rigorous examination of the LDS religion.Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 11:07 amMG,
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Since Everybody Wang Chung and I were responding to MG's claim about investigating other religions/philosophies, we should perhaps wait for his take on relative nuttiness.huckelberry wrote: ↑Thu May 29, 2025 5:27 amI am puzzling in my mind as to what would be nuttier, studying thousands of different religions (would it not make more sense to generalize to a few main variations?) or attempting to create a strong belief in each, whether divided up into three or four or fifty.malkie wrote: ↑Thu May 29, 2025 3:05 amI would suggest that, to make a fair comparison, during the study of each of the other religions, the investigator should choose to believe in that religion every bit as much as s/he believed in Mormonism at the time of the rigorous examination of the LDS religion.
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I suppose if the subject of the thread is MG only he should reply.malkie wrote: ↑Thu May 29, 2025 9:11 amSince Everybody Wang Chung and I were responding to MG's claim about investigating other religions/philosophies, we should perhaps wait for his take on relative nuttiness.huckelberry wrote: ↑Thu May 29, 2025 5:27 amI am puzzling in my mind as to what would be nuttier, studying thousands of different religions (would it not make more sense to generalize to a few main variations?) or attempting to create a strong belief in each, whether divided up into three or four or fifty.
I thought that there is some value in the question of how a person could think about the relative value of different religions. It is a question people sometimes consider.
I think the positive values of religion are most visible in the main general ideas. To focus on the details which have many variations might miss the point. Of course it is possible that the large ideas may be the things a person finds unbelievable.
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Malkie, thinking of your suggestion I find myself thinking it might be of value in trying to understand different religions to ask oneself what it might be like to actually believe this way. Of course one cannot actually be accurate about this but the reflection might help insight. It also might help understand other people a bit better.
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All I have to go on is my own experience. I can't speak for anyone else. I do believe that I have given adequate time and energy to considering the choices within the 'market place of ideas'. I think Mormon Theology places right up there to that which I would consider to be a 'divine plan' that allows for progression for all of God's children.malkie wrote: ↑Thu May 29, 2025 3:05 amI would suggest that, to make a fair comparison, during the study of each of the other religions, the investigator should choose to believe in that religion every bit as much as s/he believed in Mormonism at the time of the rigorous examination of the LDS religion.Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Tue May 27, 2025 11:07 am
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What other religions (out of thousands) were also subjected to a rigorous, thorough and "lengthy investigation process over a long period of time" by you?
As huckelberry was alluding to, I think, there is truth and goodness in many religions and other systems of ethical behavior. I don't know that it is necessary to either dispute that or even spend a long time considering that fact. What interests me are the doctrines and teachings of churches and other belief systems.
I'll have to leave it at that.
Except to ask you, what other religious belief system that believes in God do you see as having doctrines and a theology that supersedes that of the CofJCofLDS?
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Why? Just a guess here, is it because you aren't familiar with the doctrines and teachings of any religion other than Mormonism?MG wrote: What interests me are the doctrines and teachings of churches and other belief systems.
I'll have to leave it at that.
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Not going to answer my question, huh?Gadianton wrote: ↑Fri May 30, 2025 1:01 amWhy? Just a guess here, is it because you aren't familiar with the doctrines and teachings of any religion other than Mormonism?MG wrote: What interests me are the doctrines and teachings of churches and other belief systems.
I'll have to leave it at that.

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