Boelter: Fruits of Jesus Camp

[Markk]

Whose fault is it for people like this, Jersey Girl and Kish's I suppose in that they support these protests, or is it the individuals fault?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Unw--2N95Ko

MY comment was about his MO and SOP.

So far as I can tell that's the Protestor's fault.

Wouldn't mind seeing a longer video of that. Why? Example: The throw down of Padilla. I haven't seen any video that showed what happened in that incident start to finish. There might not be one but that's the kind of thing I look for to put any incident in context and not rely on political leanings/inflamed passions of those involved or my own. Politics are a factor for sure, what I'm looking for is the point at which the law was broken by whomever violated it.

If you haven't seen the violence, you aren't trying. What laws do you care about being broken?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLtQU60Y1d4&t=1011s

[Kishkumen]

Whose fault is it for people like this, Jersey Girl and Kish's I suppose in that they support these protests, or is it the individuals fault?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Unw--2N95Ko

MY comment was about his MO and SOP.

LOL!!!

If anyone approves of beating police within an inch of their lives, that would be you, your fellow MAGA looneys, and the president who pardoned his minions for beating those police.

[Kishkumen]

So far as I can tell that's the Protestor's fault.

Wouldn't mind seeing a longer video of that. Why? Example: The throw down of Padilla. I haven't seen any video that showed what happened in that incident start to finish. There might not be one but that's the kind of thing I look for to put any incident in context and not rely on political leanings/inflamed passions of those involved or my own. Politics are a factor for sure, what I'm looking for is the point at which the law was broken by whomever violated it.

Markk’s shameless hypocrisy has no bottom. It is pointless to entertain the shallow thoughtless stupidity of a man who voted for an insurrectionist president that let his rioters beat on the Capitol police and then pardoned them for those beatings. Markk himself approves of the violence as his vote proves. If he really disapproved of beating on police, he would not vote for the guy who pardoned people who attacked the police with deadly intent, the guy who has created a martyr out of a woman who threatened the lives of members of Congress with her wild assault on the inner doors of the Capitol. Markk has zero grounds to bring up any beating of police. He is complicit and approving of beating up police while engaging in a violent coup.

[Jersey Girl]

So far as I can tell that's the Protestor's fault.

Wouldn't mind seeing a longer video of that. Why? Example: The throw down of Padilla. I haven't seen any video that showed what happened in that incident start to finish. There might not be one but that's the kind of thing I look for to put any incident in context and not rely on political leanings/inflamed passions of those involved or my own. Politics are a factor for sure, what I'm looking for is the point at which the law was broken by whomever violated it.

If you haven't seen the violence, you aren't trying. What laws do you care about being broken?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLtQU60Y1d4&t=1011s

I didn't SAY that I didn't see violence. What the heck is your problem? Are you incapable of having a reasonable exchange?

Get away from me.

[Markk]

So far as I can tell that's the Protestor's fault.

Wouldn't mind seeing a longer video of that. Why? Example: The throw down of Padilla. I haven't seen any video that showed what happened in that incident start to finish. There might not be one but that's the kind of thing I look for to put any incident in context and not rely on political leanings/inflamed passions of those involved or my own. Politics are a factor for sure, what I'm looking for is the point at which the law was broken by whomever violated it.

Markk’s shameless hypocrisy has no bottom. It is pointless to entertain the shallow thoughtless stupidity of a man who voted for an insurrectionist president that let his rioters beat on the Capitol police and then pardoned them for those beatings. Markk himself approves of the violence as his vote proves. If he really disapproved of beating on police, he would not vote for the guy who pardoned people who attacked the police with deadly intent, the guy who has created a martyr out of a woman who threatened the lives of members of Congress with her wild assault on the inner doors of the Capitol. Markk has zero grounds to bring up any beating of police. He is complicit and approving of beating up police while engaging in a violent coup.

Another maniacal rant. I have displayed zero hypocrisy on this item, at least yet. If you would like to discuss January 6th fine start a thread of ask me questions here.

My point was and is clear, you have a clear MO. I will add that you are unable, in my opinion, to help yourself with these rants. You are doing it again here on January 6th and somehow blaming people's violence on me, it is your MO.

If what you are saying is true, then you support all the left wing people that commit violence using left wing ideology as a motive.

Carry on Kish.

[Jersey Girl]

So far as I can tell that's the Protestor's fault.

Wouldn't mind seeing a longer video of that. Why? Example: The throw down of Padilla. I haven't seen any video that showed what happened in that incident start to finish. There might not be one but that's the kind of thing I look for to put any incident in context and not rely on political leanings/inflamed passions of those involved or my own. Politics are a factor for sure, what I'm looking for is the point at which the law was broken by whomever violated it.

Markk’s shameless hypocrisy has no bottom. It is pointless to entertain the shallow thoughtless stupidity of a man who voted for an insurrectionist president that let his rioters beat on the Capitol police and then pardoned them for those beatings. Markk himself approves of the violence as his vote proves. If he really disapproved of beating on police, he would not vote for the guy who pardoned people who attacked the police with deadly intent, the guy who has created a martyr out of a woman who threatened the lives of members of Congress with her wild assault on the inner doors of the Capitol. Markk has zero grounds to bring up any beating of police. He is complicit and approving of beating up police while engaging in a violent coup.

I think you forgot intellectually dishonest. I'll let that slide this time.

[Markk]

Markk’s shameless hypocrisy has no bottom. It is pointless to entertain the shallow thoughtless stupidity of a man who voted for an insurrectionist president that let his rioters beat on the Capitol police and then pardoned them for those beatings. Markk himself approves of the violence as his vote proves. If he really disapproved of beating on police, he would not vote for the guy who pardoned people who attacked the police with deadly intent, the guy who has created a martyr out of a woman who threatened the lives of members of Congress with her wild assault on the inner doors of the Capitol. Markk has zero grounds to bring up any beating of police. He is complicit and approving of beating up police while engaging in a violent coup.

I think you forgot intellectually dishonest. I'll let that slide this time.

Lol...Jersey Girl, you have no idea what is going on in the streets in regard to the violence by protestors. How am I being intellectually dishonest? I am showing you things you haven't seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F91vStz ... rt_radio=1

Looking at this last video, do you think calling the national guard out to protect federal buildings while the local and state police are dealing with protesters throwing bricks at them?

Let's be intellectually honest here Jersey Girl.

[Kishkumen]

Another maniacal rant. I have displayed zero hypocrisy on this item, at least yet. If you would like to discuss January 6th fine start a thread of ask me questions here.

My point was and is clear, you have a clear MO. I will add that you are unable, in my opinion, to help yourself with these rants. You are doing it again here on January 6th and somehow blaming people's violence on me, it is your MO.

If what you are saying is true, then you support all the left wing people that commit violence using left wing ideology as a motive.

You can’t escape the clear facts that you knew this about Trump, voted for him anyway, and offer only lame excuses and dodges for your immoral position. You are culpable.

Carry on Kish.

I do think you and every Trump voter out there do bear some responsibility for MAGA violence. Why? Because Trump only encourages, condones, and provides legal cover for that violence. Those are the crucial differences. Yes, protestors of different political stripes can get out of hand. Only one major political movement and its leader, however, have vocally encouraged violence, multiple times, have promised to shield people in the movement from the consequences of their violence, and have pardoned violent offenders, thus encouraging future violent offenses within the movement.

Your feeble attempt to wave this away by insisting that it is a different subject is transparent and, as usual, stupid.

Your support of Trump, your vote, while being perfectly aware of these things, burdens you with culpability for the resulting violence.

[Markk]

Another maniacal rant. I have displayed zero hypocrisy on this item, at least yet. If you would like to discuss January 6th fine start a thread of ask me questions here.

My point was and is clear, you have a clear MO. I will add that you are unable, in my opinion, to help yourself with these rants. You are doing it again here on January 6th and somehow blaming people's violence on me, it is your MO.

If what you are saying is true, then you support all the left wing people that commit violence using left wing ideology as a motive.

You can’t escape the clear facts that you knew this about Trump, voted for him anyway, and offer only lame excuses and dodges for your immoral position. You are culpable.

Carry on Kish.

I do think you and every Trump voter out there do bear some responsibility for MAGA violence. Why? Because Trump only encourages, condones, and provides legal cover for that violence. Those are the crucial differences. Yes, protestors of different political stripes can get out of hand. Only one major political movement and its leader, however, have vocally encouraged violence, multiple times, have promised to shield people in the movement from the consequences of their violence, and have pardoned violent offenders, thus encouraging future violent offenses within the movement.

Your feeble attempt to wave this away by insisting that it is a different subject is transparent and, as usual, stupid.

Your support of Trump, your vote, while being perfectly aware of these things, burdens you with culpability for the resulting violence.

That's just dumb. As if you don't vote and/or support your candidates or ideological leaders. Why am I responsible for others' acts, and you aren't?

I support the law and believe it should be upheld, you don't. I believe this guy that killed these state leaders, if found guilty, should receive the death penalty, as with the person that killed those Christian Jews, or Luigi, that murdered the heath CEO....and I believe any protester that throws rocks or bricks at cops should be tried for serious crimes from assault to attempted murder. And I believe immigration laws should be enforced, even as the law that pasted and said should be the path to citizenship.

Exactly what violence do you think I am guilty of? Again, I support full prosecution of the sick person that shot the innocent state representatives, and not just saying, "yes, he got out of hand".....do you believe these fellow protesters of yours that are breaking laws by assaulting law enforcement, burning cars, destroying public property, blocking freeways, spraying graffiti, etc...should be prosecuted?

[Kishkumen]

That's just dumb. As if you don't vote and/or support your candidates or ideological leaders. Why am I responsible for others' acts, and you aren't?

I support the law and believe it should be upheld, you don't. I believe this guy that killed these state leaders, if found guilty, should receive the death penalty, as with the person that killed those Christian Jews, or Luigi, that murdered the heath CEO....and I believe any protester that throws rocks or bricks at cops should be tried for serious crimes from assault to attempted murder. And I believe immigration laws should be enforced, even as the law that pasted and said should be the path to citizenship.

Exactly what violence do you think I am guilty of? Again, I support full prosecution of the sick person that shot the innocent state representatives, and not just saying , "yes, he got out of hand".....do you believe these fellow protesters of yours that are breaking laws by assaulting law enforcement, burning cars, destroying public property, blocking freeways, spraying graffiti, etc...should be prosecuted?

No, Markk. I know it's really difficult for you to understand this, but when you vote for a man that you know encourages, condones, and pardons the violence of his followers, then you are responsible for the results. If you don't want violent movements, you don't support them with your vote. That is exactly what you did. You condone MAGA violence.

Compare this with Governor Newsom, who criticized the violence of those LA protesters who had gotten out of hand and called for their arrest and prosecution. Newsom supports peaceful protests and promises to pursue and punish protesters who break the law. Trump encouraged his rally attendees to rough up anyone who disrupted his rally, promising to cover their legal fees if they did so. I don't know how you can make that contrast any clearer. Trump used his pardon power to shield violent extremists who beat cops during J6 from the consequences of their violent criminal activities.

You voted for Trump. You knew these facts about Trump. You continue to claim falsely that you can selectively support Trump despite his personal role in stirring up violence in this country without bearing any blame for your choices. Sorry, but everyone here knows what you have done, and we will consider you responsible for your vote, responsible for contributing to the political violence in this country.