The Most Ridiculous Things In Mormonism

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:42 pm
For me, and there’s no contest whatsoever, MG is the most embarrassing thing about Mormonism. Hands down.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:42 pm
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
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And there are A LOT. *snip*
For me, and there’s no contest whatsoever, MG is the most embarrassing thing about Mormonism. Hands down.

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You're back! You've been missed! Not having that ONE extra voice of ridicule has been noticed.

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Polygamy where old men marry teenage wives. My fav was Snow. He liked them young and fresh and I'm sure the dupe fathers of those poor teenagers believed they were doing God's work by giving their daughters to the lech.

https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/year-of- ... enzo-snow/

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Dr Exiled wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:20 am
Polygamy where old men marry teenage wives. My fav was Snow. He liked them young and fresh and I'm sure the dupe fathers of those poor teenagers believed they were doing God's work by giving their daughters to the lech.

https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/year-of- ... enzo-snow/

He watched his beloved prophet leader and did likewise.
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:20 am
Polygamy where old men marry teenage wives. My fav was Snow. He liked them young and fresh and I'm sure the dupe fathers of those poor teenagers believed they were doing God's work by giving their daughters to the lech.

https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/year-of- ... enzo-snow/

He watched his beloved prophet leader and did likewise.
He was 57 when he married his 9th wife, She was FIFTEEN. That is disgusting. His last three wives were aged 16, 17, and 15. He married them at age 42, 45, and 57.

Every time I think I can't be more disgusted by this cult masquerading as something good, I am reminded of how immoral and sickening its history and beliefs are.
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Polygamy inherently means older men marrying much younger women. It's not just an ugly quirk that sometimes happened in Utah. It's a mathematical necessity. The numbers of male and female children of any one given age are always close to equal, but if the total population is growing exponentially, then the number of women born in a later year will be greater than the number of men born in an earlier year. For any given rate of exponential population growth, finding a larger ratio of women to men requires looking at a younger cohort of women. If men are to find large numbers of wives, the wives have to be much younger.

Furthermore, the rate of population growth is limited by the number of women who are bearing children, regardless of how many fathers are involved. So the only way that polygamy can possibly increase the rate of population growth, and "raise up" a religious community, is by getting women to have children younger.

Young girls getting pregnant by much older men wasn't just an occasional glitch in Mormon polygamy. It was the mathematically inevitable and central point of the whole system. Polygamy is a euphemism. What it meant was pedogamy.

And the real reason why Mormon polygamy had to cease was that the population was never going to be able to keep growing exponentially at a high enough rate to supply all those younger wives. As soon as the growth rate started dropping, polygamy was bound to collapse. Whether or not people understood what was happening, they would have noticed that the old system was no longer working because there just weren't enough girls to go around any more.
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Physics Guy wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2025 6:42 am
Polygamy inherently means older men marrying much younger women. It's not just an ugly quirk that sometimes happened in Utah. It's a mathematical necessity. The numbers of male and female children of any one given age are always close to equal, but if the total population is growing exponentially, then the number of women born in a later year will be greater than the number of men born in an earlier year. For any given rate of exponential population growth, finding a larger ratio of women to men requires looking at a younger cohort of women. If men are to find large numbers of wives, the wives have to be much younger.

Furthermore, the rate of population growth is limited by the number of women who are bearing children, regardless of how many fathers are involved. So the only way that polygamy can possibly increase the rate of population growth, and "raise up" a religious community, is by getting women to have children younger.

Young girls getting pregnant by much older men wasn't just an occasional glitch in Mormon polygamy. It was the mathematically inevitable and central point of the whole system. Polygamy is a euphemism. What it meant was pedogamy.

And the real reason why Mormon polygamy had to cease was that the population was never going to be able to keep growing exponentially at a high enough rate to supply all those younger wives. As soon as the growth rate started dropping, polygamy was bound to collapse. Whether or not people understood what was happening, they would have noticed that the old system was no longer working because there just weren't enough girls to go around any more.
You're saying Mormon God wasn’t very good at math, nor biology, nor population growth dynamics.

Or that early Mormon older men wanted loads of teenage wives for purposes of sex and power. I mean, how silly is that? When have older men ever used women just for their own sexual gratification or for power and ego trips?
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:20 am
Polygamy where old men marry teenage wives. My fav was Snow. He liked them young and fresh and I'm sure the dupe fathers of those poor teenagers believed they were doing God's work by giving their daughters to the lech.

https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/year-of- ... enzo-snow/

He watched his beloved prophet leader and did likewise.
Bishop Snow of Manti was a man after Brigham Young's own heart.
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Marcus wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 6:50 pm
Dr Exiled wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:20 am
Polygamy where old men marry teenage wives. My fav was Snow. He liked them young and fresh and I'm sure the dupe fathers of those poor teenagers believed they were doing God's work by giving their daughters to the lech.

https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/year-of- ... enzo-snow/

He watched his beloved prophet leader and did likewise.
He was 57 when he married his 9th wife, She was FIFTEEN. That is disgusting. His last three wives were aged 16, 17, and 15. He married them at age 42, 45, and 57.

Every time I think I can't be more disgusted by this cult masquerading as something good, I am reminded of how immoral and sickening its history and beliefs are.
All of Brian Hales’ defenses and excuses and explanations for Joseph Smith’s polygamy, go out of the window when it comes to Snow.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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I Have Questions wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:55 am
Physics Guy wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2025 6:42 am
Polygamy inherently means older men marrying much younger women. It's not just an ugly quirk that sometimes happened in Utah. It's a mathematical necessity. The numbers of male and female children of any one given age are always close to equal, but if the total population is growing exponentially, then the number of women born in a later year will be greater than the number of men born in an earlier year. For any given rate of exponential population growth, finding a larger ratio of women to men requires looking at a younger cohort of women. If men are to find large numbers of wives, the wives have to be much younger.

Furthermore, the rate of population growth is limited by the number of women who are bearing children, regardless of how many fathers are involved. So the only way that polygamy can possibly increase the rate of population growth, and "raise up" a religious community, is by getting women to have children younger.

Young girls getting pregnant by much older men wasn't just an occasional glitch in Mormon polygamy. It was the mathematically inevitable and central point of the whole system. Polygamy is a euphemism. What it meant was pedogamy.

And the real reason why Mormon polygamy had to cease was that the population was never going to be able to keep growing exponentially at a high enough rate to supply all those younger wives. As soon as the growth rate started dropping, polygamy was bound to collapse. Whether or not people understood what was happening, they would have noticed that the old system was no longer working because there just weren't enough girls to go around any more.
You're saying Mormon God wasn’t very good at math, nor biology, nor population growth dynamics.
You might interpret this to be saying the opposite.

Regards,
MG
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