LDS Church and the Problem of Anti-immigration

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Re: LDS Church and the Problem of Anti-immigration

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sock puppet wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 10:43 pm
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Wed Jul 02, 2025 10:30 pm


During the Obama Administration the use of Detention Facilities were common. 2.9 million people were deported during President Barack Obama’s first term, 1.9 million during Obama’s second term. There were detention centers scattered throughout the United States. Deportations undertaken during President Joe Biden’s term were around 1.49 million. During the Obama Administration the number of detention beds increased sharply. The Trump Administration has ramped it up because of the Open Borders policy of the Biden Administration.

Many of the migrants being sent to the new Everglades detention facility have already requested to return to their home countries, and officials expect their stays in the Florida facility to be relatively short. There is a natural barrier around the facility that acts as a barrier prohibiting escape. The facilities are air conditioned 24/7 and basic human needs are taken care of until deportation. And here's the thing...the folks that come to this facility have the opportunity to self deport even at the time they are being checked into the detention facility.

The LDS Church follows the law of the land. The law is being followed.

However, the Church has been clear as to its position on immigration and those affected by the current laws of the United States:



Senior leaders have also said:



In regards to the law being followed the church has said:


Guidelines for local leaders are:


The Church is not unaware of what is going on. It is working within the law. It is doing all that in can to help and provide for the safety of illegal immigrants within the requirements of the law.

I have a sister-in-law and her husband who are here in Utah from California doing a service mission in a local ward of Spanish speaking immigrants. They do everything they can under the guidelines to serve these children of God.

I'm not sure why you are lambasting the church in this instance. If you read the whole article it also presents some examples of when the church did say something in regards to particular actions being taken by the Trump Administration.

It wouldn't surprise me if they might have something to add to what they've already said and done...but they have spoken out quite a bit already.

As can be seen, the Obama Administration was not sitting on its hands. It deported people and had detention facilities all over the United States.

The Biden Administration created a mess. The Trump Administration is following the law and cleaning up the mess that was left. The Everglades Detention Facility is part of that ongoing effort.

How are things going there in the UK when it comes to immigrants and protecting national sovereignty?

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MG
In 2011, the LDS Church openly in an official statement called for compassion. Now it is trying to do less, secretly. Got it!
Do you have evidence supporting that?

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MG
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 10:56 pm
sock puppet wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 10:43 pm


In 2011, the LDS Church openly in an official statement called for compassion. Now it is trying to do less, secretly. Got it!
Do you have evidence supporting that?

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Your posts as contrasted with the 2011 statement. That there is what they call the proof is in the pudding.
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It will be fascinating to see what the LDS church does if ICE agents show up at a meeting house on Sunday to make immigration arrests?

Even more interesting, if ICE agents show up at a temple to do so?

Will the cowardly Big 15 and their impotent Mormon God continue with their appeasement?
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Wed Jul 02, 2025 11:20 pm
It will be fascinating to see what the LDS church does if ICE agents show up at a meeting house on Sunday to make immigration arrests?

Even more interesting, if ICE agents show up at a temple to do so?

Will the cowardly Big 15 and their impotent Mormon God continue with their appeasement?
They are following the law as mentioned in my earlier post.

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Wed Jul 02, 2025 11:30 pm
sock puppet wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 11:20 pm
It will be fascinating to see what the LDS church does if ICE agents show up at a meeting house on Sunday to make immigration arrests?

Even more interesting, if ICE agents show up at a temple to do so?

Will the cowardly Big 15 and their impotent Mormon God continue with their appeasement?
They are following the law as mentioned in my earlier post.

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MG
So appeasement it is. That Mormon God, he sure isn't a leader like the pope, is he?
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 11:30 pm
They are following the law as mentioned in my earlier post.
I don't know about anyone else, but when Fib Master MG says that ICE is following the law, then that's good enough for me.

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 11:40 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 11:30 pm
They are following the law as mentioned in my earlier post.
I don't know about anyone else, but when Fib Master MG says that ICE is following the law, then that's good enough for me.

"I don’t lie, I just edit the truth for dramatic effect.” -- Fib Master MG
Sheesh. Where to go with that. TTOC.

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 11:53 pm
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 11:40 pm


I don't know about anyone else, but when Fib Master MG says that ICE is following the law, then that's good enough for me.

"I don’t lie, I just edit the truth for dramatic effect.” -- Fib Master MG
Sheesh. Where to go with that. TTOC.

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Fibster MG, how about some place far, far away? :lol: :lol:
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 11:55 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 11:53 pm


Sheesh. Where to go with that. TTOC.

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Fibster MG, how about some place far, far away? :lol: :lol:
Here we go! Latest ruse. Fibster!!

Coming from someone who I would consider to be the most prolific liar on this board

You're a hypocrite, Wang.

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 12:13 am
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 11:55 pm


Fibster MG, how about some place far, far away? :lol: :lol:
Here we go! Latest ruse. Fibster!!

Coming from someone who I would consider to be the most prolific liar on this board

You're a hypocrite, Wang.
Fibster MG,

I've noticed you're starting to lash out in anger again at posters. That usually happens when you've been caught in one of your (too numerable to count) lies.

Usually what happens is that you take a break for a while to cool down and collect your thoughts. Might I suggest the same course of action before you sully what little is left of your reputation? Remember, by your own admission you are here as a missionary for the lurkers or anyone who might come across this board.

Right now, your dishonest, sexist and angry behavior is not reflecting well on you or your missionary efforts. Remember, people are asking themselves why would I want to belong to a religion that has turned a lifelong member like Fibster MG into a sexist, dishonest, angry little man.

You can do better. You can be better. I want you to be the best Fibster MG you can be.
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