Trump's DOJ: There Is No Epstein List

[Kishkumen]

Fascinating how the epidemic of child trafficking morphs over time into the uninteresting Jeffrey Epstein client list that never existed about which Ajax doesn't care anyway. As soon as the bullseye starts to move to MAGA targets, the whole storm dies down.

How long will it take before adrenochrome guzzling Satanic Illuminati Democrat cannibals are once again a powerful MAGA hysteria? Maybe the fall of Alex Jones precludes the possibility.

[Doctor Steuss]

I keep thinking that MAGA has jumped the shark, only to discover another moment of, "wow, they really will support him no matter what."

The deep state, at Trump's command, is protecting Democrat, Republican, and foreign elite pedophiles and child sex-traffickers. The MAGA faithful who have sustained themselves on conspiracies involving red shoes, expensive cabinets, pizza shop basements, and so on, as well as raging against drag queens reading books to kids, because of how important protecting children is, have responded with a resounding...

*shrug*

[canpakes]

I keep thinking that MAGA has jumped the shark, only to discover another moment of, "wow, they really will support him no matter what."

The deep state, at Trump's command, is protecting Democrat, Republican, and foreign elite pedophiles and child sex-traffickers. The MAGA faithful who have sustained themselves on conspiracies involving red shoes, expensive cabinets, pizza shop basements, and so on, as well as raging against drag queens reading books to kids, because of how important protecting children is, have responded with a resounding...

*shrug*

With that shrug possibly being interpreted as their own kind of newfound support of pedophiles and child sex-traffickers … because anything other than a shrug could damage members of their ‘team’, presumably.

It’s fascinating to watch so many MAGA folks suddenly talk about how forgetting about Epstein would be their preference, now.

[Kishkumen]

An imaginary Satanic Cannibal Hillary is so much more compelling than the actual abuse of kids perpetrated by Trump and his lickspittles, right?

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Pam Bondi said the she had it on her desk in real time. Was she just going by Giuffre's speculations about what was on her own desk?

I don't know. Either way, it's a nonissue for me.

Really. You never posted here about the pedophiles in the Democratic party, the elites abusing kids, none of that? You never said a word about Epstein? You don’t want the people who, according to your people, raped thousands of kids, caught?

The end of this elite secret society that rapes children is a non issue for you?

[Bret Ripley]

[Dr Exiled]

It's a little early, probably, even though it's been a lot of years this story has been perculating. It looks like an incredibly transparent coverup, a stupid coverup, like the FBI is captured by some group. But let's see what our narrative masters say and then we can know what to think.

Virginia Giuffre's story was what a lot of this speculation relied upon. In hindsight it's pretty apparent she was lying. Her testimony was so discredited prosecutors wouldn't even call her to the stand in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial.

This is a prime example of what I've been railing about for the past few years. There is too much team spirit and not enough independent thought. Don't you realize that the story was about the dirty FBI covering for this perp and that finally the truth would come out once Trump was in there? This was of course prior to Trump and his minions changing the story and covering it up on behalf of a tiny country in the middle east as well as probably for other oligarch interests and other intelligence agencies.

Your post shows yet another unfortunate reason why team politics has ruined this country. The politicos should be serving us and not the other way around. You know the rich oligarchs think this way. They are on the phone immediately to the stooge politician when things don't go their way. We see it all the time and they get away with it because they can rely on the team political virus to get the average voter to go along with yet another beating.

You have permission to look objectively at facts. Realize that yet another politician has basically defrauded the voters and will probably defraud them further. You know Trump is talking about keeping the illegal farm and hotel workers here .... because .... wait for it ..... the rich farming and hotel interests complained and he listened to them and is going to act on behalf of them and not you. Wake up. Trump's MAGA is a mirage, just like Obama's "hope and change" wasn't much change and killed hope in the first few days of his administration. You're being played and so is everyone else. Stop falling for the two party dance where they prop up less important issues to get us to fight each other so they can rob us blind. We won't get what we want until we force these bozos to do what we want and stop blindly following and justifying their actions when they betray us yet again.

[Markk]

If there is a literal client list, which there may or may not be. If not a list I find it pretty much impossible that there are not scattered documents that would allow them the make some sort of list.

The Biden DOJ had the same docs that the current DOJ has, unless I am missing something here.

If Trump was on the list I find it hard to believe it was not leaked by the previous administration before the election. If high ranking Democrat's are on the list I find that equally difficult to believe that the current administration wouldn't leak it. Who knows maybe there is some sort of black agreement between the power brokers behind both parties....like big pharma and other super Pac's.

Honestly I am not sure what to believe, but I might even lean towards the conspiracy theory that it was some sort of blackmail scheme with a foreign government....Israel? I think Tucker talked about this.

But my bigger guess is it is a bi-partisan agreement of high profile, behind the scenes Democrats and GoP's that need it to go away in that if one goes down, they all go down. As an example, what if a Obama and a Clarence Thomas were on the list, I am in no way saying they are, but just as an example of why both sides would keep it under wraps.

But the GoP owns it now, and while election have positive consequence, they have negative also. Trump's owns this now and it will be interesting how it unfolds.

[canpakes]

Honestly I am not sure what to believe, but I might even lean towards the conspiracy theory that it was some sort of blackmail scheme with a foreign government....Israel? I think Tucker talked about this.

But my bigger guess is it is a bi-partisan agreement of high profile, behind the scenes Democrats and GoP's that need it to go away in that if one goes down, they all go down. As an example, what if a Obama and a Clarence Thomas were on the list, …

I don’t see much of a downside for Trump there, politically speaking. Even with your ‘both sides are dirty’ scenario he could do significant damage to Democrats, while his base will accept whatever Trump’s own involvement would be, followed by rationalizing it away. The MAGA base will excuse anything Trump does even if we are talking about a sexual history with minors (“he was set up by the Deep State ..!!1!” or somesuch). And given that he supposedly cannot run in 2028 - not that Republicans won’t still try some legal wrangling to make that happen, because they absolutely will - then there’s no threat of a lost re-election campaign, let alone a threat of anyone beginning an effective impeachment movement. So why is he suddenly being so cagey and putting on the faux indignation act when asked about it, after campaigning on releasing those records?

On the other hand, if there is something damaging to Trump in the docs, and his team is already in deep with legal plans to ensure that the courts allow a third term run, then he has an interest in suppressing that information. His Base would still vote for him but he’d lose the swing voters.

Outside of political ambitions, the downside of damaging information is probably greatest for his brand, which he would protect at all cost, given how it drives so much of his family’s income.

[Kishkumen]

This is a prime example of what I've been railing about for the past few years. There is too much team spirit and not enough independent thought. Don't you realize that the story was about the dirty FBI covering for this perp and that finally the truth would come out once Trump was in there? This was of course prior to Trump and his minions changing the story and covering it up on behalf of a tiny country in the middle east as well as probably for other oligarch interests and other intelligence agencies.

Your post shows yet another unfortunate reason why team politics has ruined this country. The politicos should be serving us and not the other way around. You know the rich oligarchs think this way. They are on the phone immediately to the stooge politician when things don't go their way. We see it all the time and they get away with it because they can rely on the team political virus to get the average voter to go along with yet another beating.

You have permission to look objectively at facts. Realize that yet another politician has basically defrauded the voters and will probably defraud them further. You know Trump is talking about keeping the illegal farm and hotel workers here .... because .... wait for it ..... the rich farming and hotel interests complained and he listened to them and is going to act on behalf of them and not you. Wake up. Trump's MAGA is a mirage, just like Obama's "hope and change" wasn't much change and killed hope in the first few days of his administration. You're being played and so is everyone else. Stop falling for the two party dance where they prop up less important issues to get us to fight each other so they can rob us blind. We won't get what we want until we force these bozos to do what we want and stop blindly following and justifying their actions when they betray us yet again.

Yep.