Texas flooding

[Rivendale]

In the comments on the reverse board believers are claiming Governor Cox's plead for prayers for moisture were answered with a monumental snowfall? And the proprietor’s response is that people believe it works. Believing in a magical world view allows this.

They are simply accepting the “hits” as divine intervention, and dismissing the “misses” as not evidence of a lack of divine intervention. It’s very difficult to discuss things rationally with such irrationally minded people.

If something isn't true everything can count as evidence. The videos A Marvelous Work illustrates this. In the episode "How great the evidence" they go all over the planet finding things that could be a Book of Mormon site or artifact. Museums are full of Nephite artifacts according to apologists.

[huckelberry]

First Rusty can't get a revelation that would ever actually help a person that needed help and adding to that, he can't even convince the majority of his followers, 64%, to abstain from murder.

Gadianton, I am puzzled, for better or worse I have no idea what you are thinking of here.

[drumdude]

The Great Prayer Experiment, also known as the Templeton Foundation Prayer Study, was a large-scale, ten-year clinical trial that aimed to investigate the effects of intercessory prayer on patients undergoing cardiac bypass surgery. The study, funded by the John Templeton Foundation, involved 1,802 patients and found that prayer, as delivered in the study, did not significantly improve patient outcomes. In fact, some results suggested that patients who knew they were being prayed for experienced more complications.

It’s that old Mormon trickster God again. Making sure that prayer studies show prayer makes people worse, and putting Early Modern English into the Book of Mormon!

The LDS church needs a new top apologist. DCP has been reduced to reposting links that his friends email him. Absolutely feckless.

[Ego]

The Great Prayer Experiment, also known as the Templeton Foundation Prayer Study, was a large-scale, ten-year clinical trial that aimed to investigate the effects of intercessory prayer on patients undergoing cardiac bypass surgery. The study, funded by the John Templeton Foundation, involved 1,802 patients and found that prayer, as delivered in the study, did not significantly improve patient outcomes. In fact, some results suggested that patients who knew they were being prayed for experienced more complications.

It’s that old Mormon trickster God again. Making sure that prayer studies show prayer makes people worse, and putting Early Modern English into the Book of Mormon!

The LDS church needs a new top apologist. DCP has been reduced to reposting links that his friends email him. Absolutely feckless.

I’ve been wondering lately what would make for a truly compelling apologist for Mormonism since the golden age of Mopologetics has slipped and now we have lots of surface level apologists rehashing the same points again and again. I would hope for someone like Dan McLellan who I genuinely feel educated by at the end of a video but alas he’s not an apologist.

[Rivendale]

It’s that old Mormon trickster God again. Making sure that prayer studies show prayer makes people worse, and putting Early Modern English into the Book of Mormon!

The LDS church needs a new top apologist. DCP has been reduced to reposting links that his friends email him. Absolutely feckless.

I’ve been wondering lately what would make for a truly compelling apologist for Mormonism since the golden age of Mopologetics has slipped and now we have lots of surface level apologists rehashing the same points again and again. I would hope for someone like Dan McLellan who I genuinely feel educated by at the end of a video but alas he’s not an apologist.

David Bokovoy might be good. He argued for the catalyst method for the Book of Abraham while he was employed by BYU and was apparently shot down and then released. He interviewed for a tenured position and he has said the question that disqualified him was probably the one that asked him what he would tell one of his students if they found some of his non faith promoting explanations online. That might work against him although McClellan seems to have survived his online critics.

[MG 2.0]

I'm sure glad Nelson was able to warn everyone. Just think how many lives were saved.

Prayers for all the people that have been impacted by this freakish storm.

I was listening to Ted Cruz's podcast called "Verdict" the other day. He was right down in Hill Country after the catastrophic events unfolded. He had a difficult time expressing himself as he described some of his experiences. Choked up. He described the devastation while at the same time praising the response of all the 'angels' that came to the rescue. He describes the horrific damage and Camp Mystic where the little girls and at least one counsler were literally washed away out of the common eating area.

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/t ... 0716449898

What a tragedy.

Regards,
MG

[Everybody Wang Chung]

David Bokovoy might be good. He argued for the catalyst method for the Book of Abraham while he was employed by BYU and was apparently shot down and then released. He interviewed for a tenured position and he has said the question that disqualified him was probably the one that asked him what he would tell one of his students if they found some of his non faith promoting explanations online. That might work against him although McClellan seems to have survived his online critics.

Rumor has it that Kerry Muhlestein played a big role in Bokovoy not being hired.

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I'm sure glad Nelson was able to warn everyone. Just think how many lives were saved.

Prayers for all the people that have been impacted by this freakish storm.

I was listening to Ted Cruz's podcast called "Verdict" the other day. He was right down in Hill Country after the catastrophic events unfolded. He had a difficult time expressing himself as he described some of his experiences. Choked up. He described the devastation while at the same time praising the response of all the 'angels' that came to the rescue. He describes the horrific damage and Camp Mystic where the little girls and at least one counsler were literally washed away out of the common eating area.

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/t ... 0716449898

What a tragedy.

Regards,
MG

What matters, is not, to put it bluntly, talking to your deity (who just let the floods crash through and sweep people away as if he didn't give a damn, like he always has). Nor is it making affecting gulping noises in a podcast.

What matters is:

1. Finding out why there was little or no advance warning of the danger, and doing what can be done to make sure that in future such warning is efficiently delivered.

2. Doing something about the human-induced changes in the climate that are making severe droughts and severe rainfall both worse in intensity and higher in frequency than they were previously.

The people who take on those tasks and get them done are the ones who really care.

[MG 2.0]

Prayers for all the people that have been impacted by this freakish storm.

I was listening to Ted Cruz's podcast called "Verdict" the other day. He was right down in Hill Country after the catastrophic events unfolded. He had a difficult time expressing himself as he described some of his experiences. Choked up. He described the devastation while at the same time praising the response of all the 'angels' that came to the rescue. He describes the horrific damage and Camp Mystic where the little girls and at least one counsler were literally washed away out of the common eating area.

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/t ... 0716449898

What a tragedy.

Regards,
MG

What matters, is not, to put it bluntly, talking to your deity (who just let the floods crash through and sweep people away as if he didn't give a damn, like he always has). Nor is it making affecting gulping noises in a podcast.

What matters is:

1. Finding out why there was little or no advance warning of the danger, and doing what can be done to make sure that in future such warning is efficiently delivered.

2. Doing something about the human-induced changes in the climate that are making severe droughts and severe rainfall both worse in intensity and higher in frequency than they were previously.

The people who take on those tasks and get them done are the ones who really care.

I think two things can be true at the same time.

1. Finding out how improvements can be made to the early warning system in Hill Country...hint, they don't have one...can be improved will be the primary thing to come out of this. This was a freakish 'hundred year' storm.

2. The folks that lived in and vacationed in this area are praising God even in the midst of tragedy. The strength of the human spirit never ceases to amaze me. I think we might be able to at least agree on that.

Regards,
MG

[Everybody Wang Chung]

Prayers for all the people that have been impacted by this freakish storm.

I was listening to Ted Cruz's podcast called "Verdict" the other day. He was right down in Hill Country after the catastrophic events unfolded. He had a difficult time expressing himself as he described some of his experiences. Choked up. He described the devastation while at the same time praising the response of all the 'angels' that came to the rescue. He describes the horrific damage and Camp Mystic where the little girls and at least one counsler were literally washed away out of the common eating area.

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/t ... 0716449898

What a tragedy.

Regards,
MG

What matters, is not, to put it bluntly, talking to your deity (who just let the floods crash through and sweep people away as if he didn't give a damn, like he always has). Nor is it making affecting gulping noises in a podcast.

What matters is:

1. Finding out why there was little or no advance warning of the danger, and doing what can be done to make sure that in future such warning is efficiently delivered.

2. Doing something about the human-induced changes in the climate that are making severe droughts and severe rainfall both worse in intensity and higher in frequency than they were previously.

The people who take on those tasks and get them done are the ones who really care.

Amen!