The apologist’s evening prayer

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The apologist’s evening prayer

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“CS Lewis” wrote: From all my lame defeats and oh! much more
From all the victories that I seemed to score;
From cleverness shot forth on Thy behalf
At which, while angels weep, the audience laugh;
From all my proofs of Thy divinity,
Thou, who wouldst give no sign, deliver me.

Thoughts are but coins. Let me not trust, instead
Of Thee, their thin-worn image of Thy head.
From all my thoughts, even from my thoughts of Thee,
O thou fair Silence, fall, and set me free.
Lord of the narrow gate and the needle’s eye,
Take from me all my trumpery lest I die.
It seems to me CS Lewis belongs to a much higher tier of men than the current Christian and Mormon apologists belong to. Can you imagine a world where DCP doesn’t get his daily validation from his blog? Where Kwaku doesn’t go viral on YouTube? Where Robert Boylan spends the evening reading rather than bashing transgender women?

If a God, even Mormon God exists, he is surely weeping over his most strident defenders of the faith.
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If the church is truly led by God’s prophet, seer and revelator, the Apostles and General Authorities, then why are there self-appointed mopologists? The Afore’s existence proves the church is a fraud.

The mopologists don’t have any authority, so what's the point, besides obfuscating the facts and gaslighting the faithful?

Never mind, I think I just answered my own question.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:41 am
If the church is truly led by God’s prophet, seer and revelator, the Apostles and General Authorities, then why are there self-appointed mopologists?
In my mind, the fact that the Salt Lake City-based church has a public relations spokesman is a huge red flag. If it was really being led by Jesus Christ, shouldn't THE PROPHET be the public relations spokesman?
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:47 am
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:41 am
If the church is truly led by God’s prophet, seer and revelator, the Apostles and General Authorities, then why are there self-appointed mopologists?
In my mind, the fact that the Salt Lake City-based church has a public relations spokesman is a huge red flag. If it was really being led by Jesus Christ, shouldn't THE PROPHET be the public relations spokesman?
That's a very good point. If the Prophet is the only man on earth that speaks for God, then delegating that duty to a PR Team seems like a dereliction of duty. Not only that, it creates a wall whereby one cannot know if what is being said is what God wanted said, or what the Prophet decided he wanted to be said.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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