SeN: Child Abusers Deserve Clergy Protection?

[drumdude]

I do definitely encourage you to take this up with Professor Baughman and Dr. Hess. Their contact information is readily available.

He’s not responsible for the accuracy of what he posts guys.

Like if an LDS Egyptologist, say, makes a deliberate mistake - that’s not on Dan when he reposts it.

This is just how misinformation works. The burden is on YOU, dear critic, to slog through the mess that all these people make.

[I Have Questions]

I do definitely encourage you to take this up with Professor Baughman and Dr. Hess. Their contact information is readily available.

He’s not responsible for the accuracy of what he posts guys.

Like if an LDS Egyptologist, say, makes a deliberate mistake - that’s not on Dan when he reposts it.

This is just how misinformation works. The burden is on YOU, dear critic, to slog through the mess that all these people make.

I suppose that would depend on whether Peterson has quoted them with credit, or just plagiarised them.

[Gadianton]

We really ought to open up a “Peterson File”: how Jesus Christ’s One True Church on Earth helps to make the world a better place. Today’s entry?:

After reviewing the account carefully for second time, as I had originally reviewed it yesterday after dinner, I'm quite skeptical that the said dinner occurred. I'm considering the possibility of a hoax.

Kind of like Sledge spinning up a sock and not sure if he served a mission in the Netherlands or Norway, our narrator is uncertain if it was Mill Creek itself or a tributary that he overlooked from the veranda of the cabin. These kinds of uncertainties don't exist among Phd world travelers. The view of the creek would have been the topic of discussion while sitting on the veranda for at least several minutes. The cabin owners would quickly have clarified if it were Pack Creek or Porter Fork, they would have known for sure, as these sorts of people are full of trivia about their locale and the river itself is the most prominent feature of the setting. They would have known the history of the naming of the river and its tributaries and their guest would have asked lots of questions and feigned amusement over his host's explanations. Who was porter? Who or was Pack? Was there really a mill? I don't know the answer to any of these, but our narrator's hosts, with world-class geography educations, would know all of this considering we're talking about their prized getaway property, and the fact that they're having dinner on their veranda staring down at the star of the show.

[Doctor Scratch]

In a sense, I cannot help but be reminded of Pasolini's appalling 1975 film, Salo. Has anyone here seen this film, I wonder?



Watching it is a difficult and unforgettable experience: it is a horrific movie that's hard to sit through (rather like 6 Days in August, I suppose, though for very different reasons). Salo has an episodic narrative structure based on Dante's Divine Comedy and it follows the vulgar and grotesquely decadent exploits of four "elites" who are referred to in the movie as "The Duke," "The Magistrate," "The Bishop," and "The President." Essentially, these four are enjoying a sort of non-stop vacation where they engage in endless food and drink, debauchery, torture, cruelty, and other horrible things, and they apparently take a great deal of pleasure in doing this. Arguably the most infamous portion of the film is the "Circle of Sh!t" segment, where a literal pile of turds is brought around on a silver platter and the celebrants (the "elites" and their various guests) actually eat the poop. One characters has bits of brown caked in his teeth, like he's just bitten into a dense chocolate brownie. Like I said: very difficult to watch and very disturbing.

And yet: can there possibly be a more relevant and accurate metaphor for Mopologetics than passing crap around on a silver tray, and then actually ingesting it? Pasolini apparently intended Salo as a critique of Fascist Italy, but of course, those tendencies can surface in other contexts. Certainly, there are parallels in terms of the cruelty, and the humor that the Mopologists apparently see in it. I mean, just yesterday, the Afore related a harrowing and sad Sacrament Meeting story about a rock-climbing accident. Under normal circumstances, a story like this would be met with appropriate empathy, but instead the Afore offers up this quip: "I've wondered sometimes whether people who die while doing stupid things aren't rebuked as soon as they arrive on the other side. "What were you thinking of?"" So I guess he sat there at church pretending like he felt bad for all the parties involved, but then later scurried back to SeN where he could call the guy "stupid" in front of his cackling galley of fans?

[Everybody Wang Chung]

Very interesting post. Salo is a perfect metaphor for Mopolgetics.

The parallels are endless. Salo it's a deeply disturbing work that explores themes of fascism, power, depravity, gluttony, violence and abuse. Mopologetics is deeply disturbing and has elements of fascism, depravity, power, gluttony, abuse and violence.

[Gadianton]

Salo has an episodic narrative structure based on Dante's Divine Comedy and it follows the vulgar and grotesquely decadent exploits of four "elites" who are referred to in the movie as "The Duke," "The Magistrate," "The Bishop," and "The President."

Ah yes, Salo. I wished to see it in the theater when it released but the rest of my family wanted to see Star Wars instead.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

For some reason, the LDS church using Comic Sans on this document’s header feels appropriate.

- Doc