Trump's War on the First Amendment

[Hound of Heaven]

Just saw the bit about Kimmel. It's complete BS in a country where free speech is codified as a constitutional right.

Of course this is all coming from an administration whose leader thinks the Declaration of Independence is a "love letter".

(Wondering what happens if he successfully yanks youtube. That's what so many folks here use for news these days.)

Who's show was it? Did Kimmel own the show? Is Kimmel prohibited from starting his own show?

[Hound of Heaven]

Jimmy Kimmel is the lastest casualty. Trump's FCC threatened ABC, owned by Disney, that it would pull ABC's broadcasting license unless Kimmel's show was taken off the air.

These people are trampling on the First Amendment.

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/25/nx-s1-55 ... bc-reviews

So We the people are now losing our comedians also?!? How come WE the people are the ones always losing under this canard of Make America Great Again?!

Do we need to send out a search party for Kimmel? How is he lost? Is he free to voice his opinion elsewhere? Is he free to start his own show?

[Hound of Heaven]

No other right established in the Bill of Rights in our U.S. Constitution is more important or more sacred than the first amendment guarantee of freedom of religion and of the press, and no Supreme Court prior to the current, largely Trump appointed complement of Justices would even have begun to seriously condone the measures now being demanded by Trump and his MAGA administration. It should not be allowed now. I fear that the current Supreme Court is so intimidated or owned by Trump that there is a real danger that they might even rule in Trump's favor on this horrible travesty. If this prevails, we will certainly have regressed all the way into an absolute, authoritarian tyranny! Among the most abominable things advocated by Charlie Kirk were the abolishing of freedom of religion and freedom of speech and the press. Trump seems to be leaning strongly in that direction. That is why it is imperative that he and his ilk be voted out office permanently!

Trump has even said in interviews that he doesn't know if he ought to honor his oath to defend the constitution! For this reason alone, he should have been impeached!

What is kimmel as a free American not allowed to do? What restrictions has Trump put on him? Did he own the show?

[Hound of Heaven]

No other right established in the Bill of Rights in our U.S. Constitution is more important or more sacred than the first amendment guarantee of freedom of religion and of the press, and no Supreme Court prior to the current, largely Trump appointed complement of Justices would even have begun to seriously condone the measures now being demanded by Trump and his MAGA administration. It should not be allowed now. I fear that the current Supreme Court is so intimidated or owned by Trump that there is a real danger that they might even rule in Trump's favor on this horrible travesty. If this prevails, we will certainly have regressed all the way into an absolute, authoritarian tyranny! Among the most abominable things advocated by Charlie Kirk were the abolishing of freedom of religion and freedom of speech and the press. Trump seems to be leaning strongly in that direction. That is why it is imperative that he and his ilk be voted out office permanently!

Trump has even said in interviews that he doesn't know if he ought to honor his oath to defend the constitution! For this reason alone, he should have been impeached!

Trump and his allies are responsible for what they are doing to the USA, certainly, just as Hitler and his Nazi followers were responsible for what they did to France when they defeated France in WWII.

But as General de Gaulle pointed out, the French high command was responsible for their defeat as a result of their failure to realise that warfare had changed radically since the end of WWI in 1918, and their refusal to take the advice of younger officers like de Gaulle who urged them to develop mobile armour of the kind that Germany used in its successful 'lighting war' (blitzkrieg).

Similarly, we may ask: how on earth could the Democratic Party have let this awful disaster happen, a disaster which looks as if it may well destroy the America of the Founding Fathers? Even now, as an outsider I find myself asking myself why there are no strong voices from the party launching the lethal attacks on Trump's idiocies that even I could put together in ten minutes' work. Where is the work being done to crush the Republicans in the mid-terms as they deserve? I just can't see it, and that is more than a little alarming.

It seems likely that Disney will choose someone like Tony Hincliffe to take on the hosting duties for the show. He will adopt a more neutral stance, appealing to a broader audience, which will consequently attract more viewers.

Kimmel remains at liberty as an American to invest his millions in launching a show that he fully owns, allowing him to compete with other late-night comedians. Once more, Kimmel remains free, his freedom of expression endures, and he retains his First Amendment right to voice his opinions.

I invite anyone to challenge my perspective!

Please tell! How has Kimmel been silenced?

[Hound of Heaven]

Jimmy Kimmel is the lastest casualty. Trump's FCC threatened ABC, owned by Disney, that it would pull ABC's broadcasting license unless Kimmel's show was taken off the air.

These people are trampling on the First Amendment.

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/25/nx-s1-55 ... bc-reviews

In what ways are these MAGA people infringing upon the First Amendment?

Did Kimmel possess a constitutional right to remain in his role as host of the show for the duration of his life?

Was the company that owned the show prohibited from considering his dismissal once he took on the role of host?

Your argument lacks clarity.

[Kishkumen]

In what ways are these MAGA people infringing upon the First Amendment?

Which "MAGA people" are you talking about?

Did Kimmel possess a constitutional right to remain in his role as host of the show for the duration of his life?

I never claimed that he did. Where did I make that claim again?

Was the company that owned the show prohibited from considering his dismissal once he took on the role of host?

I never claimed that it was.

Your argument lacks clarity.

Your questions lack pertinence.

[Kishkumen]

So We the people are now losing our comedians also?!? How come WE the people are the ones always losing under this canard of Make America Great Again?!

President Poops-His-Pants can't take a joke at his expense. He has to attack the source with his presidential powers. Our president is an enemy of the First Amendment. He sent his AG out to threaten to go after people who were disrespectful in some way in response to the tragic death of Charlie Kirk. He is using his FCC head to threaten broadcasters with the loss of their license if they do not bend to his will. He and his allies are arranging the sale of media companies to Trumpy billionares to make the media landscape the equivalent of OAN or some other kissass MAGA outlet.

The nation is falling very quickly into authoritarianism. We are probably cooked. The Supreme Court is filled with Trump enablers. The Congress is yanked about by Trump loonies who are enabled by spineless Republicans too afraid of offending His Orangeness. I am not seeing the light at the end of this tunnel.

[Hound of Heaven]

In what ways are these MAGA people infringing upon the First Amendment?

Which "MAGA people" are you talking about?

Did Kimmel possess a constitutional right to remain in his role as host of the show for the duration of his life?

I never claimed that he did. Where did I make that claim again?

Was the company that owned the show prohibited from considering his dismissal once he took on the role of host?

I never claimed that it was.

Your argument lacks clarity.

Your questions lack pertinence.

The title of this discussion is "Trump's War on the First Amendment". Could you clarify your statement and elaborate on how Kimmel has become the most recent casualty? In what way is Kimmel considered a victim of his constitutional rights being infringed upon if he still has the freedom to pursue launching his own show?

You do realize he was an employee of Disney?

[Kishkumen]

The title of this discussion is "Trump's War on the First Amendment". Could you clarify your statement and elaborate on how Kimmel has become the most recent casualty? In what way is Kimmel considered a victim of his constitutional rights being infringed upon if he still has the freedom to pursue launching his own show?

You do realize he was an employee of Disney?

The opening post was very clear, Hound. What exactly is opaque to you? I notice you have conveniently ignored, for some time now, Brendan Carr's threat to pull ABC's license. If the president has his FCC chairman threaten the loss of a company's ability to conduct its business legally, we are not talking about Disney's unfettered decision to cancel Kimmel. We are talking about the president of the United States using his power to attack speech he does not approve of.

You are behaving in a very obtuse manner, and no doubt purposely.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Never believe that MAGA trolls are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The MAGA trolls have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

- Karl Marxist