Trump's War on the First Amendment

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Re: Trump's War on the First Amendment

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Markk wrote:
Fri Sep 26, 2025 4:18 am
LOl, come on schmo, it is not like you will get fined or thrown in jail if you enter into a actual conversation here. My assertion is simple and without ignoring anything, read the OP.
At this point, it seems to me you aren't even aware of how much you're lying to yourself.

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Re: Trump's War on the First Amendment

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Some Schmo wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 1:56 pm
Markk wrote:
Fri Sep 26, 2025 4:18 am
LOl, come on schmo, it is not like you will get fined or thrown in jail if you enter into a actual conversation here. My assertion is simple and without ignoring anything, read the OP.
At this point, it seems to me you aren't even aware of how much you're lying to yourself.

Useless to talk to. I'll let others waste their time.
There is an entire propaganda industry devoted to telling people like Markk what to think. It apparently does a good job.
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Trump MUST BE impeached RIGHT NOW (again)

David Pakman laid out an absolutely impeccable case for impeaching Trump. This is not just a matter of politics; it is what the constitution unequivocally requires for what Trump has already done and is still doing to violate the 1st Amendment right of free speech and assembly. Nor is this the only Constitutional mandate Trump is trying to violate or has already violated. It is an incontrovertible fact that no president in history has showed more contempt for the Constitution than Donald J. Trump. In one interview with a journalist, Trump even came right out and said that he didn't know if he would honor his oath to defend and support the Constitution. This last fact alone is just cause for mandatory impeachment, whether anyone likes it or not!

See also: Trump now clearly deserves to be impeached (again)

According to any honest reading of the constitution, Congress is unequivocally duty bound to impeach Trump for things he has already done, like the attempted insurrection of January 2020 and threatening to deprive the citizenship of Americans who dared to criticize or oppose him.

TRIGGERED: Trump Impeached by MORE VOTES Than Any President

Trump was impeached by more votes than any other President in history. No matter if he survives this Presidency or not, he will be disgraced by this fact alone for at least the rest of his life and probably by history.
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Gunnar wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 6:08 am
Trump MUST BE impeached RIGHT NOW (again)

David Pakman laid out an absolutely impeccable case for impeaching Trump. This is not just a matter of politics; it is what the constitution unequivocally requires for what Trump has already done and is still doing to violate the 1st Amendment right of free speech and assembly. Nor is this the only Constitutional mandate Trump is trying to violate or has already violated. It is an incontrovertible fact that no president in history has showed more contempt for the Constitution than Donald J. Trump. In one interview with a journalist, Trump even came right out and said that he didn't know if he would honor his oath to defend and support the Constitution. This last fact alone is just cause for mandatory impeachment, whether anyone likes it or not!

See also: Trump now clearly deserves to be impeached (again)

According to any honest reading of the constitution, Congress is unequivocally duty bound to impeach Trump for things he has already done, like the attempted insurrection of January 2020 and threatening to deprive the citizenship of Americans who dared to criticize or oppose him.

TRIGGERED: Trump Impeached by MORE VOTES Than Any President

Trump was impeached by more votes than any other President in history. No matter if he survives this Presidency or not, he will be disgraced by this fact alone for at least the rest of his life and by history.
Far too late. Congress had its chance in the wake of January 6. Congress has completely collapsed in terms of acting of any kind of check on the executive branch.

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Wed Oct 01, 2025 6:29 am
Far too late. Congress had its chance in the wake of January 6. Congress has completely collapsed in terms of acting of any kind of check on the executive branch.

Appealing to duty or concurrence or moral values is useless. In an authoritarian mass movements, adherents replace their individual identities with the group’s identity. The individual’s moral code is replaced with the strongman’s moral code — any action taken to destroy the enemy is moral.
I find that both heartbreaking and terrifying. It seems more and more like Trump and his minions are well on their way to reshaping our country into an absolute dictatorship like North Korea. It is no secret that Trump has openly and famously expressed admiration for Kim Jong Un and envy of his absolute, unchallengeable power over his people. I really believe Trump is deliberately aspiring and working towards achieving that kind of absolute power. Before Trump, I would never have believed that there were so few Republicans with enough spine and integrity to effectively oppose an amoral, self-serving monster like him. Is there any realistic hope remaining that enough citizens will be aroused and outraged enough by Trump's depravity and corruption to salvage our democracy and the just rule of law?
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Kishkumen wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:11 pm
Some Schmo wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 1:56 pm

At this point, it seems to me you aren't even aware of how much you're lying to yourself.

Useless to talk to. I'll let others waste their time.
There is an entire propaganda industry devoted to telling people like Markk what to think. It apparently does a good job.
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Re: Trump's War on the First Amendment

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Kishkumen wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:11 pm
Some Schmo wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 1:56 pm

At this point, it seems to me you aren't even aware of how much you're lying to yourself.

Useless to talk to. I'll let others waste their time.
There is an entire propaganda industry devoted to telling people like Markk what to think. It apparently does a good job.
Lol, am I that much into your head? You guys should read your posts.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 6:29 am
Appealing to duty or concurrence or moral values is useless. In an authoritarian mass movements, adherents replace their individual identities with the group’s identity. The individual’s moral code is replaced with the strongman’s moral code — any action taken to destroy the enemy is moral.
Yep. We certainly see that on this board. Discussing things with MAGA folk on any topic that touches on MAGA is an absolute waste of time. It is hard for me to see the absolute inhumanity, cruelty, dishonesty, and cultlike behavior of these folks. I am coming to the end of my patience with it. Blocking them may be the only way to go here. I will not block Ceeboo, but he is probably the only one.
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Re: Trump's War on the First Amendment

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Markk wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 12:13 pm
Kishkumen wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:11 pm


There is an entire propaganda industry devoted to telling people like Markk what to think. It apparently does a good job.
Lol, am I that much into your head? You guys should read your posts.
Are you OK, Markk? I am beginning to worry here. You took that throw-away comment on "people like Markk" as evidence that you are personally some kind of big concern for me?

Narcissist much?
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Re: Trump's War on the First Amendment

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I love how Markk starts every post with LOL as though he's entertained by having his ass handed to him over and over.

Actually, I know it's not that. He's saying LOL in lieu of thinking about or acknowledging any points, pretending he's in control and above it all while knowing he's in over his head (at least, he would know that if he weren't a complete moron).

He's a typical dumbass Trump fan. If he'd ever had any integrity, his Trump fanhood has thrown it away.

(I post this because the Trump fan gets off on thinking he's in my head, so this is a parting gift. It's not important what he thinks of me. He's shown he believes all kinds of nonsense, and I refuse to talk him out of it, because stupidity resists being cured).
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