Operational Dynamics of “Reasoned Faith”

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Re: Operational Dynamics of “Reasoned Faith”

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canpakes wrote:
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Dr. Shades wrote:
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[MODERATOR NOTE: Hi Hound of Heaven,

If you see an off-topic post that you wish to bring to a moderator's attention, please use the "Report" feature rather than derailing the thread itself. Thank you.]
Thanks, Shades. I’m sure that now you’ve reiterated the proper procedure for addressing questionable posts that we’ll see it used by all board participants accordingly.
Reporting it via the report thing is not the same as having a forum discussion about it. Discussions are great. Discuss away.
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canpakes wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 5:08 pm
Dr. Shades wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 5:05 am

[MODERATOR NOTE: Hi Hound of Heaven,

If you see an off-topic post that you wish to bring to a moderator's attention, please use the "Report" feature rather than derailing the thread itself. Thank you.]
Thanks, Shades. I’m sure that now you’ve reiterated the proper procedure for addressing questionable posts that we’ll see it used by all board participants accordingly.
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Re: Operational Dynamics of “Reasoned Faith”

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malkie wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 5:21 pm
canpakes wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 5:08 pm
Thanks, Shades. I’m sure that now you’ve reiterated the proper procedure for addressing questionable posts that we’ll see it used by all board participants accordingly.
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Are you suggesting that I lack faith? : D
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 2:08 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 2:06 pm
What would you trust to determine if a post is primarily or entirely generated by AI?
An abundance of em dashes and bulleted lists along with vocabulary uncharacteristic of the author.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 2:48 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 2:44 pm
-_-
Thank you for your insightful contribution. You've convinced me by sheer force of logic.
You’re impervious to logic, buddy. Enjoy your future of users AI sliding threads.
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Re: Operational Dynamics of “Reasoned Faith”

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Sat Dec 06, 2025 12:29 am
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Dec 05, 2025 10:58 pm
See: "The Artificial Intelligence MEGATHREAD" for further entertainment and enlightenment. :lol:

Further responses from me on this topic will be found there where it is considered 'legal' to do so. ;)

Or is it? If not, I will cease and desist. The problem is, what if Limnor is doing the same thing?

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MG
LOL. More projection.
To me it appeared that Limnor was using A.I., especially at the speed we were going back and forth. But yeah, I guess he could be super humanly awesome.

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 9:49 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Sat Dec 06, 2025 12:29 am
LOL. More projection.
To me it appeared that Limnor was using A.I., especially at the speed we were going back and forth. But yeah, I guess he could be super humanly awesome.

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MG
I appreciate the vote of confidence, MG. Either I’m using AI or I’m “super humanly awesome.” That’s one of your more generous false dilemmas.
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Limnor wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 10:28 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 9:49 pm
To me it appeared that Limnor was using A.I., especially at the speed we were going back and forth. But yeah, I guess he could be super humanly awesome.

Regards,
MG
I appreciate the vote of confidence, MG. Either I’m using AI or I’m “super humanly awesome.” That’s one of your more generous false dilemmas.
If MG had said that about me, I'd have just accepted the compliment :D

Edit to fix grammar - improper sequence of verbs in past tenses :oops:
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Re: Operational Dynamics of “Reasoned Faith”

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 6:20 am
Gadianton wrote:
Sun Dec 07, 2025 11:42 pm
That's a good point. You're either trapped into verifying what's assumed or if you try to branch out and learn something new, there is the risk of learning something in conflict with the teachings of the Brethren.
The “reasoned” part of reasoned faith is devoted to establishing what is possible, not what is. What is is presumed. And, with God, all things are possible.
I think you’re exactly right about how “reasoned faith” often functions. The believer treats what is as already settled, and uses reason to support that predetermination.

I’d like to talk about this some more. I've been thinking through a proposition that fulfilled prophesy is evidence of a Christ figure, fulfilled by Jesus; mostly because I just find the suffering-servant references in the prophetic texts compelling.

What I’m thinking through is perhaps that a result from that view becomes more an interpretive conclusion, not an evidentiary requirement.

So the question is, am I using a possibility to protect a fixed conclusion? Or am I pre-fixing a solution? These are genuine questions and I’m trying to be honest about why that interpretation resonates with me.
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Re: Operational Dynamics of “Reasoned Faith”

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malkie wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 10:30 pm
Limnor wrote:
Mon Dec 08, 2025 10:28 pm
I appreciate the vote of confidence, MG. Either I’m using AI or I’m “super humanly awesome.” That’s one of your more generous false dilemmas.
If MG had said that about me, I'd have just accepted the compliment :D

Edit to fix grammar - improper sequence of verbs in past tenses :oops:
Haha thank you, MG.
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