The artificial intelligence MEGATHREAD

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Wanna know what’s funny? I have had whiskey dick and the HoH on ignore forever. I literally have no idea what they’re saying. Yet, I can post anything at them having exactly zero contextual information, and they respond like the Pavlovian dogs they are. Lolol@lolcows WD & the HoH.

[canpakes]

If three people recognize that 2+2=4 that doesn't mean there's a massive support group going on.

Sure, but couldn’t that be suggested by a paranoid individual who controls a proxy account and who needs to prompt AI to be sarcastic in order to tailor their own replies? : )

[Whiskey]

If three people recognize that 2+2=4 that doesn't mean there's a massive support group going on.

Sure, but couldn’t that be suggested by a paranoid individual who controls a proxy account and who needs to prompt AI to be sarcastic in order to tailor their own replies? : )

Well, the good news is that y'all share a common bond in lying. And that is great. A connection amongst friends.

[Whiskey]

Wanna know what’s funny? I have had whiskey dick and the HoH on ignore forever. I literally have no idea what they’re saying. Yet, I can post anything at them having exactly zero contextual information, and they respond like the Pavlovian dogs they are. Lolol@lolcows WD & the HoH.

That is funny. It is particularly funny in this thread.

Hey Shades and Xeno,

What's worse:

A - Doc Cammy's posts
B - an AI post
C - a response to Doc Cammy's posts.

This AI conversation better have not “F” all to do with the integrity of the forum or board. Because uh, we have cammy and his apologists here and they are just fine with A: cammy's posts.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

To the tune of SpongeBob SquarePants:

Who lives in a threadboard and is a troll?

Whiskey Dick!

Deranged and drunk, losing all his controls?

Whiskey Dick!

Posting for decades, acting insane,

With a nose that drips and tears like rain!

Whiskey Dick!

Haunted and sad, he cries for help again!

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I didn’t use AI because the lyrics are correctly written.

[Whiskey]

To the tune of SpongeBob SquarePants:

Who lives in a threadboard and is a troll?

Whiskey Dick!

Deranged and drunk, losing all his controls?

Whiskey Dick!

Posting for decades, acting insane,

With a nose that drips and tears like rain!

Whiskey Dick!

Haunted and sad, he cries for help again!

——————

I didn’t use AI because the lyrics are correctly written.

What's worse:

A - Doc Cammy's posts
B - an AI post
C - a response to Doc Cammy's posts.

Hey Xeno and Shades, use this post as an example for the question and answers. Xeno, this may require you to stand for something, which I know is an uncomfortable position for you, standing. But still, would be interesting to know where you stand, if you were to ever actually stand.

As the conversation about AI continues, I think we really need to consider whether AI is truly a threat and not an enhancement. As you can see from the posts in this thread, AI can be great and funny and provoking. It can also be a damn lot better than cammy's original thoughts. (He is pretending that he doesn't read this, by the way, LOL).

[Physics Guy]

ChatGPT would not have been able to write my student's paper, nor would it have been able to impress those expert evaluators. It does seem to be able to do some useful things, though.

Chat GPT is very good at writing code, particularly Python, and writing excel formulas. It can translate between Python, Excel, Visual Basic and other languages very well. But it makes, and repeats, mistakes. It is only useful if the limitations are known. Sounds like the examples you gave were cases where the limitations were known and exploited.

Yes, so I think there is room for optimism about how helpful the current kind of so-called Artificial Intelligences may turn out to be. They may be able to speed things up for people who know what they are doing, by quickly performing tasks that are tedious and time-consuming to perform, but for which it is comparatively quick and easy to check valid completion.

This would at least be not bad, and it might even be really great. It might conceivably stretch into the league of civilisational advances like writing, printing, and the Internet. A chatbot is still just quite different from having an actually intelligent assistant. The way these things are currently marketed, as "intelligences", actually makes it harder to get the best use of them.

I think the problem is that clearly identifying just what these chatbots can do well, and what they can't, will require solving a significant chunk of what used to be called the "hard problem of AI". So perhaps when we get flooded with AI slop we should feel honoured to be part of a great experiment in learning what real intelligence is.

[Marcus]

...So perhaps when we get flooded with AI slop we should feel honoured to be part of a great experiment in learning what real intelligence is.

[Whiskey]

Chat GPT is very good at writing code, particularly Python, and writing excel formulas. It can translate between Python, Excel, Visual Basic and other languages very well. But it makes, and repeats, mistakes. It is only useful if the limitations are known. Sounds like the examples you gave were cases where the limitations were known and exploited.

Yes, so I think there is room for optimism about how helpful the current kind of so-called Artificial Intelligences may turn out to be. They may be able to speed things up for people who know what they are doing, by quickly performing tasks that are tedious and time-consuming to perform, but for which it is comparatively quick and easy to check valid completion.

This would at least be not bad, and it might even be really great. It might conceivably stretch into the league of civilisational advances like writing, printing, and the Internet. A chatbot is still just quite different from having an actually intelligent assistant. The way these things are currently marketed, as "intelligences", actually makes it harder to get the best use of them.

I think the problem is that clearly identifying just what these chatbots can do well, and what they can't, will require solving a significant chunk of what used to be called the "hard problem of AI". So perhaps when we get flooded with AI slop we should feel honoured to be part of a great experiment in learning what real intelligence is.

Sometimes AI feels like the hot new 3D invention for home theater and real theater. No 3D experience ever made a movie at a home or in a theater better. Not once. Not ever. Not the original Avatar, none of them. AI bots keep tripping over themselves and ending up just making the view different and nothing is better.

For example - all the Excel bots on every AI platform. There are even people trying to sell these so-called trained bots. They absofuckinglutely do NOT make spreadsheets, data, extrapolation, storage, presentation or processing better than just knowing excel. They do not replace knowing excel. If you can't troubleshoot the AI - you can't just drop it into a process. AI just made the project worse.

Now... like you said, if "[t]hey may be able to speed things up for people who know what they are doing, by quickly performing tasks that are tedious and time-consuming to perform, but for which it is comparatively quick and easy to check valid completion.... now we have a game changer." Here is an example of this. We had to write claims for a patent application. And we had to reference the images. In that, we had to reference patents that we relied on for the claims. For all of that, AI is an absolute train wreck. I mean.... train wreck. AI is a massive liability. HUGE HUGE HUGE risk in using it to cross-reference or do original research. It will hurt the user, and it will be expensive.

But... Let's say we inserted an image between 16 and 17. Maybe we shift the images, up a number or maybe we use 16a and 16b. AI can process that in seconds and can do it for a very very very large document. "Hey Gemini - shift all image references up one number. For example, all 17 become 18, 18 to 19, etc." For that, slam dunk. Anyone not using AI for that is losing out. In that case, not using AI is costing the authors money.

And..... here we are in a forum. Using AI to generate the ideas is a huge drag. But what if it is just the word processor? Could make the forum a lot better.

[canpakes]

Well, the good news is that y'all share a common bond in lying. And that is great. A connection amongst friends.

I ran this quote above through an AI. The conclusion:

Analysis: Projection.