Making America Great Again - another innocent shot dead

[canpakes]

I think it was a tragedy, but no more of a tragedy than the death of Ashley Babbit. If you value your life, don't bring a gun to a protest and then procede obstruct a lawful arrest of an illegal immigrant …

That didn’t happen here.

and then fight the police while refusing lawful orders.

That didn’t happen here, either. Rather, it appeared that Pretti was reacting more to having a can of pepper spray emptied directly into his face.

If you have a gun, you put your hands up and tell the officer that you have a gun on you so that he can safely confiscate it.

Oh, interesting. You’re good with surrendering your firearms so easily?

You don't fight the police and expect to come out unscathed.

I watched a thousand J6 protesters do just that. They were all pardoned … not sprayed point blank in the face with pepper spray, jumped by 6 officers and summarily shot to death.

Why the difference?

Obstructing arrests and border enforcement is not peaceful protest.

Could you point out where Pretti did that?

It's a crime. It's against the law.

Could you point out where Pretti violated the law?

What about the 36,500 peaceful protesters in Iran that were killed in the past couple weeks?

Are you saying that Iranian protesters also deserve to be shot for protesting?

I’m not even sure Pretti was ‘protesting’. Can you tell me what he was doing and how that earns your justification for our government to act as Iran’s does?

Do you view the situation in Minnesota as equivalent to this?

How would the answer matter?

How many Jan 6 protesters brought guns to their protest?

Several. Look it up. And bats, and poles, and hockey sticks, and some were creative enough to smash Capitol police in the face with imaginative weapons like fire extinguishers.

Why aren't Tim Walz and the mayor of Minneapolis being investigated for inciting an insurrection the way Donald Trump was.

Could you point out where Walz issued dozens of tweets over several weeks inviting protesters to show up and … blow whistles at ICE?

Donald Trump said they were going to peacefully march at Congress.

He did use that word once after spending over an hour telling everyone how they need to fight to ‘take back’ what was allegedly ’stolen’ from him. Over and over and over. But what does that have to do with this event in Minneapolis?

The Minneapolis mayor told ICE to get the F out of Minneapolis. Democrat governors have spoken to give permission for protesters to fire on ICE agents. How is that not inciting an insurrection? Why aren't these Minnesota protesters going to the gulag that the Jan 6 protesters were sent to?

Which Democratic governors have ‘asked permission’ to shoot at ICE officers, and under what circumstances?

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Now MAGAts are anti-2nd Amendment. Huh. hOw MaNy JaN6 pRoTeStErS bRoUgHt GuNs tO tHeIr PrOtEsT? Gee, I wonder if that’s easily discoverable information or not?

Indeed, it is … from independent sources:

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/us-c ... 025-01-16/

Just don’t ask Trump’s government about it, though, as ‘the most transparent Administration in history’ appears to have scrubbed their own website of that information.

[Some Schmo]

The quotes of that ajax post are enough to understand why he's a Trump voter. He's dumb as a damned post.

Jesus damned Christ, that's some hardcore idiocy. Belligerent idiocy, and I have little doubt he's proud of it.

[¥akaSteelhead]

How many Jan 6 protesters brought guns to their protest?

And this is another piss poor analogy. One incident was a man in a public space where he was legally allowed to carry a firearm. The 2nd is people trespassing in a federal facility, and where carrying a firearm is prohibited - and yet we know some did.

[ajax18]

Which Democratic governors have ‘asked permission’ to shoot at ICE officers, and under what circumstances?

It was Kris Mills the Democrat AG in Arizona.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/arizon ... state-laws

[canpakes]

Which Democratic governors have ‘asked permission’ to shoot at ICE officers, and under what circumstances?

It was Kris Mills the Democrat AG in Arizona.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/arizon ... state-laws

This quote?

“And we have a Stand Your Ground law that says that if you reasonably believe that your life is in danger and you’re in your house or your car or on your property, that you can defend yourself with lethal force,” Mayes said.

Mayes said that the law was a fact and she wasn’t encouraging violence.

“If you’re being attacked by someone who is not identified as a peace officer — how do you know?” Mayes said.

That sounds like she’s stating the obvious, but not encouraging or asking permission to shoot anyone.

If you find this troubling, maybe someone should be rethinking how ‘stand your ground’ laws are written, because the way that ICE encourages its offers to act with regard to being masked and often refusing to identify themselves could become an issue. It’s almost as if the Administration is hoping that the situation above will occur.

[ajax18]

It’s almost as if the Administration is hoping that the situation above will occur.

No, it's a political play by the Democrats because they know that while the American people in general want the border enforced, they don't want to see ugly scenes on the television where deporting people or even stopping them from entering the country illegally escalates to deadly conflict, regardless of who actually did the escalating. It's a smart play by the Democrats and given how they've alienated working class white voters, it's the only play they have left without completely abandoning their ideology.

[canpakes]

It’s almost as if the Administration is hoping that the situation above will occur.

No, it's a political play by the Democrats because they know that while the American people in general want the border enforced, they don't want to see ugly scenes on the television where deporting people or even stopping them from entering the country illegally escalates to deadly conflict, regardless of who actually did the escalating.

Then don’t escalate it to deadly conflict.

Amazingly simple solution, isn’t it? How is it that those Evil Democrats have managed to make ICE and MAGA look so buffoonish and murderous, then?

[ajax18]

No, it's a political play by the Democrats because they know that while the American people in general want the border enforced, they don't want to see ugly scenes on the television where deporting people or even stopping them from entering the country illegally escalates to deadly conflict, regardless of who actually did the escalating.

Then don’t escalate it to deadly conflict.

Amazingly simple solution, isn’t it? How is it that those Evil Democrats have managed to make ICE and MAGA look so buffoonish and murderous, then?

Well that would mean that we couldn't enforce immigration law, nor could we root out the fraud in places like Minnesota. If we could just kick Minnesota out of the USA or let them secede, I think that would be preferable to Jacob Frey calling up the Minnesota National Guard to drive ICE out of Minnesota, which is by definition an insurrection way more than January 6 ever was. The permission structure for protesters to shoot and kill ICE agents starts by Tim Walz and Res Ipsa demanding that we not call them law enforcement but rather domestic terrorists. Walz calls them untrained which simply is not true. Keep in mind that more people are being deported from red states than Minnesota. But there's no escalation and really no conflict because nearly everyone in red state America believes that criminal illegal immigrants (not just illegal border crossers) should be deported and never return. This should be a bipartisan issue but the radical left cannot even accept deporting criminal illegal aliens without pouring huge amounts of money into paid protest, hostility, and actual physical obstruction of ICE agents doing their job.

Biting of an officers finger is not peaceful protest. Obstructing an arrest and deportation is not peaceful protest. And Mr. Pretti was physically and violently resisting arrest. And does Tim Walz care that Mr. Pretti lost his life? No, it was worth it to Tim Walz because it has helped make sure that criminal illegal immigrants can remain in Minnesota and that his government's role in the massive amounts of Somali fraud remains hidden. So why doesn't left wing America just secede and leave the country. Well that would mean that they would have to put up their own money and labor for their welfare state rather than just getting to sock it to the people who actually do the work. Were this not true, the left could just secede and enjoy their own communist utopia. Why don't they? Because they know what they're doing and who they really rely on to pay their bills! The left's only hope is to resist, fight, create chaos, incite violence, and get ugly pictures up on CNN in hopes that they might sway the American people to put them back in power and that they can once again begin to prey upon working people. Going off on their own to actually work for a living and become self sufficient is not an option for people of their moral character.

[canpakes]

Then don’t escalate it to deadly conflict.

Amazingly simple solution, isn’t it? How is it that those Evil Democrats have managed to make ICE and MAGA look so buffoonish and murderous, then?

Well that would mean that we couldn't enforce immigration law, nor could we root out the fraud in places like Minnesota.

No. It means that you simply don’t use shooting people to death as the preferred method of enforcement.

Does MAGA really believe that 6 chunky agents couldn’t subdue a guy holding a camera that also just had a can of pepper spray emptied into his face without also needing to blow multiple holes into him? And that shooting a woman several times in the head is the best way to react to being called a ‘big boy’? Because maybe we need to keep these snowflakes in training for a much longer period of time. .

[Jersey Girl]

Keith Edwards. Check this. 5 minutes.

I can't believe this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaO9QrNM24Q

Link to the GFM.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/alex-pretti- ... rican-hero