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Re: The artificial intelligence MEGATHREAD

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MG wrote:So, gadianton, at the end of the day do you find the relatable, material God greater than the abstract one?
This is a good question, MG, thank you for participating rather than derailing.

In the story of the Sneetches that I had AI comment on in this thread, is it better to have a star or not have a star?

Imagine two competing religions that have gone to war for centuries, one worships Zeus and the other Thor. One day while fighting, Zeus and Thor actually appear overhead and everyone stops to watch the great gods do battle. It's hard to say before the fact if a lightning bolt is more powerful than a magic hammer. But suppose Zeus throws this epic bolt that leaves Thor's body crushed to the ground and motionless. The perfect "fatality" move, if you ever played Streetfighter2. Then Zeus throws bolts at Thor's followers, killing them. With the advantage, Zeus's followers begin to capture Thor's followers and imprison them.

Thor's body slowly decays and rots and merges with the elements until nothing is left. Zeus's cult is triumphant. Many of Thor's followers convert and are allowed to live. Many are punished and tortured and convert under duress. A few though don't convert. Rumor spreads among the stalwarts that Thor was just playing dead. His spirit has now absorbed into the wind and he's watching, waiting for the right time to strike. When he does, the wicked who punished the helpless Thorites will be sorry. However, once Thor returns to destroy Zeus once and for all and destroys the truly wicked who showed themselves as villains, he will have mercy on the rest, and even feed the families of the fallen soldiers of Zeus. This spirit-Thor relates not only to the remaining struggling Thorites, but a few from the Zeus cult are listening. Many bit their tongue but just weren't good with Zeus being such a sore winner. After he won, why did he go overboard and start killing everyone for no reason? It made some sense, if you really thought about it, that Thor pretended to lose just to show the truth about Zeus's weakness of temperament. What a master move. What control. The final great battle should be pretty damn good.

So no, I don't think we can say a God with a body is more relatable than a God without a body without more information.
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Re: The artificial intelligence MEGATHREAD

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Gadianton wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2026 1:24 pm
So no, I don't think we can say a God with a body is more relatable than a God without a body without more information.
Except when Actual Body God wants to hang out, drink beers and show you his tats.
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Re: The artificial intelligence MEGATHREAD

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Gadianton wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2026 1:24 pm
MG wrote:So, gadianton, at the end of the day do you find the relatable, material God greater than the abstract one?
So no, I don't think we can say a God with a body is more relatable than a God without a body without more information.
That's where LDS theology and the King Follett discourse come into the picture. We worship a God who has had common experience with us. He has experienced pain and suffering. Happiness and joy. He has overcome all things. He is our perfect example. Jesus became incarnate and experienced the physicality of a 'fallen world' with all of its ups and downs.

Zeus and Thor were 'god born'. There's a difference, isn't there in your comparison/analogy?

In LDS theology God wasn't born a God. He is relatable because He knows us and has experienced what we experience and we can progressively get to know Him and become more like Him.

He is not the classical 'nebulous god' that one has a difficult wrapping their mind around or being able to relate to except for finding him in your heart.

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2026 4:07 pm
...He is not the classical 'nebulous god' that one has a difficult wrapping their mind around or being able to relate to except for finding him in your heart...
Huh. Previously,
mg's AI wrote: ...I am of the opinion that the things of God can only be known by the Spirit of God...
With this and all the contradictions that have been pointed out, I don't get the sense mentalgymnast really believes what he says. Either that or he still is posting AI without understanding it. The real irony is that his efforts to push the LDS church fail miserably because of his approach.
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Fibber is such a great missionary.
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Posting these 'back and forth' posts on this thread so as to alleviate any concern that some may have that I have used AI in my responses. ;)

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Time to post this past thread again:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=160605

I'm gonna stick to my commitment to not respond to certain posters. They never let up.

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2026 5:11 pm
Time to post this past thread again:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=160605

I'm gonna stick to my commitment to not respond to certain posters. They never let up.

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Re: The artificial intelligence MEGATHREAD

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sock puppet wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2026 5:23 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2026 5:11 pm
Time to post this past thread again:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=160605

I'm gonna stick to my commitment to not respond to certain posters. They never let up.

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Trolls are gonna troll.
Your response is offensive and inflammatory. You are trolling. Classic behavior. Same with others that do the exact same thing. It is YOU and others that end up derailing threads by coming in and causing havoc by avoiding substance and attacking the messenger. Over and over again.

Watch where this thread goes now that you've come in and crapped on it.

Unfortunate.

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Re: The artificial intelligence MEGATHREAD

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Fibber wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2026 5:31 pm
Your response is offensive and inflammatory. You are trolling. Classic behavior. Same with others that do the exact same thing. It is YOU and others that end up derailing threads by coming in and causing havoc by avoiding substance and attacking the messenger. Over and over again.

Watch where this thread goes now that you've come in and crapped on it.

Unfortunate.

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