More Travel and Dining Expenses for "Bowdlerizing Brigham"?
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Re: More Travel and Dining Expenses for "Bowdlerizing Brigham"?
I always have to laugh when DCP mentions Redbrick Filmwork’s budget as if it’s separate from Interprerer.
“I was only paid/reimbursed from Redbrick!”
The same Redbrick that has taken in millions of dollars from Interpreter in the last 5 years. I’m absolutely positive DCP will never disclose an exact amount that he has shoveled into their coffers. He could easily include it in Interpreter’s “transparent” financial disclosure. He deliberately chooses not to.
If it all came from specific donors for that specific purpose, he could just say that. But I doubt the funds were not co-mingled.
“I was only paid/reimbursed from Redbrick!”
The same Redbrick that has taken in millions of dollars from Interpreter in the last 5 years. I’m absolutely positive DCP will never disclose an exact amount that he has shoveled into their coffers. He could easily include it in Interpreter’s “transparent” financial disclosure. He deliberately chooses not to.
If it all came from specific donors for that specific purpose, he could just say that. But I doubt the funds were not co-mingled.
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What I find fascinating is that 'royalties' were donated, according to the Interpreter Foundation's 990 form in 2023, in the amount of $9,906. The 'Donated Royalties' are listed in the Program Revenue section, the next line after Witnesses revenue of $37,308. In the 2022 990 form, 'Donated Royalties' are $7,947. In the 2021 990 form, 'Donated Royalties' are $5,313.
Who would be donating Royalties that are listed as Program Revenue? Maybe the Executive Producers who want to be seen as donating to their charity?
In the 990 form for 2024, the Royalties are no longer listed as 'donated Royalties' under the Witnesses movie revenue. They are listed as just Royalties revenue, in the amount of $8,779. Does this mean the Foundation earns Royalties? Or is it still the donations from the executive producers? Or maybe someone pointed out that earning money off your foundation's charitable work and getting personal tax benefits by donating it back again is a type of personal inurement, a no-no in the benefit world.
Who would be donating Royalties that are listed as Program Revenue? Maybe the Executive Producers who want to be seen as donating to their charity?
In the 990 form for 2024, the Royalties are no longer listed as 'donated Royalties' under the Witnesses movie revenue. They are listed as just Royalties revenue, in the amount of $8,779. Does this mean the Foundation earns Royalties? Or is it still the donations from the executive producers? Or maybe someone pointed out that earning money off your foundation's charitable work and getting personal tax benefits by donating it back again is a type of personal inurement, a no-no in the benefit world.
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Re: More Travel and Dining Expenses for "Bowdlerizing Brigham"?
An interesting (but not quite true?) admission
I’m finding it difficult to believe that the Peterson's did not avail themselves of the films catering when they chose to visit the filming of Witnesses, (Undaunted - was that a film?) and 6DIA. Yet that is what Peterson is saying “Neither one of us has ever been paid for our work as executive producers. Nor have we ever had our expenses covered as executive producers.” so no scrap of paid for film catering ever passed their lips. Apparently.One of the sleuths over at the POB smells a rat here. There’s skullduggery going on! My wife and I were both listed as executive producers for Witnesses (2021), Undaunted (2022), and Six Days in August (2024) and yet my expenses were covered while hers were not? Plainly, in my incompetent and ham-handed way, I’m somehow trying to deceive them or to conceal something untoward.
Here’s the truth, though: Neither one of us has ever been paid for our work as executive producers. Nor have we ever had our expenses covered as executive producers.
This is actually useful to understand; I myself didn’t fully understand an executive producer’s role in filmmaking before I began to function as one.
In movie production, the executive producer secures funding, manages the budget, and oversees the entire production process from development through distribution. He or she might be involved — as, in fact, we were — in major casting decisions, but an executive producer is certainly involved in hiring the director and key members of the production crew, in reviewing and approving the script, and in reviewing the film as it develops, as well as in legal and marketing decisions.
It’s a behind-the-scenes role. It doesn’t entail being present for filming. Which means, in our case, that my wife and I were very seldom on the set for Witnesses, Undaunted, and Six Days in August — and, even then, only when the shooting was local. Although we were once or twice on the set at LDS Motion Picture Studios in Provo and at This is the Place Heritage Park in Salt Lake City, we weren’t compensated for being there. It wasn’t necessary for us to be there, and we didn’t travel to Upper Canada or upstate New York or Tennessee. Neither us ever earned a cent or was reimbursed a penny for any of those three films.
My wife and I are executive co-producers for Becoming Brigham and, in that capacity, neither of us is paid or has an expense account. However, I’m actually in front of the camera for this current series, while she isn’t. That isn’t part of being an executive producer (and, incidentally, it wasn’t my idea to put me before the camera). So, because I need to be there on set, my transportation and lodging and food have been covered out of their budget by Redbrick Filmworks when we’ve filmed in Illinois, New York, Iowa, Missouri, and southern Utah. My wife came along on some of the early film shoots for Becoming Brigham but, since her presence there wasn’t essential, her expenses weren’t covered.
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Re: More Travel and Dining Expenses for "Bowdlerizing Brigham"?
Quite a clumsy response. He should have said something like, “*I* am the Priesthood holder here! *I* am the one who calls the shots!” Or even: “She doesn’t have any interest in filmmaking, so she chose to stay at home.”
Instead, look at these admissions side by side:
But let’s be real here: he’s wielding his power over the budget in order to get free junk food and travel opportunities for himself. Did you notice how he says that Ex. Producers are involved in “major casting decisions” and yet that (somehow) it “wasn’t [his] idea to put [him] in front of the camera”? The inconsistencies here are all big red flags and are pretty clear signs of deception.
Instead, look at these admissions side by side:
In movie production, the executive producer secures funding, manages the budget, and oversees the entire production process from development through distribution.
“Manages the budget” means that they had a direct say on things like the “expense account” and who got paid for being “in front of the camera.”My wife and I are executive co-producers for Becoming Brigham and, in that capacity, neither of us is paid or has an expense account. However, I’m actually in front of the camera for this current series, while she isn’t.
But let’s be real here: he’s wielding his power over the budget in order to get free junk food and travel opportunities for himself. Did you notice how he says that Ex. Producers are involved in “major casting decisions” and yet that (somehow) it “wasn’t [his] idea to put [him] in front of the camera”? The inconsistencies here are all big red flags and are pretty clear signs of deception.
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Re: More Travel and Dining Expenses for "Bowdlerizing Brigham"?
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Deborah Peterson is both the Secretary and Treasurer of the IF. in my opinion, nonprofits are at risk when there’s a conflict of interest at hand. The wife of the President being BOTH the secretary and treasurer is a clear conflict of interest when it comes to expense accounts, outlays, and anything else financially tied to the nonprofit’s president.
Who controls approvals, payments, and recordkeeping? If there are vague expenses, unusual vendors, missing documentation, mini transactions, or muddied transparency then “strong safeguards” like separating financial duties, requiring dual approvals, or reconciling accounts are circumvented..
Deborah Peterson is both the Secretary and Treasurer of the IF. in my opinion, nonprofits are at risk when there’s a conflict of interest at hand. The wife of the President being BOTH the secretary and treasurer is a clear conflict of interest when it comes to expense accounts, outlays, and anything else financially tied to the nonprofit’s president.
Who controls approvals, payments, and recordkeeping? If there are vague expenses, unusual vendors, missing documentation, mini transactions, or muddied transparency then “strong safeguards” like separating financial duties, requiring dual approvals, or reconciling accounts are circumvented..
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Re: More Travel and Dining Expenses for "Bowdlerizing Brigham"?
Countdown to the moment that DCP claims that you accused him and his wife of fraud, collusion, or some such - 3, 2, 1, ...Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2026 10:28 amhttps://interpreterfoundation.org/foundation
Deborah Peterson is both the Secretary and Treasurer of the IF. in my opinion, nonprofits are at risk when there’s a conflict of interest at hand. The wife of the President being BOTH the secretary and treasurer is a clear conflict of interest when it comes to expense accounts, outlays, and anything else financially tied to the nonprofit’s president.
Who controls approvals, payments, and recordkeeping? If there are vague expenses, unusual vendors, missing documentation, mini transactions, or muddied transparency then “strong safeguards” like separating financial duties, requiring dual approvals, or reconciling accounts are circumvented..
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Re: More Travel and Dining Expenses for "Bowdlerizing Brigham"?
There is really a lot to digest here. (Pun intended.) Indeed, there is a lot of food for thought (again). For my part, I appreciate the opportunity to reflect on the implications that these developments have on the study of Mopologetics.
Consider this: if Jesus—or Joseph Smith—was offered a chocolate milkshake for dinner, would he/they have accepted it? (The WoW comes straight from Joseph Smith…what would he have thought about the Interpreter-dictated food options?) And what about other Mopologetic idols—C.S. Lewis and Tolkien, for example. Would they have ordered chicken-fried steak for lunch? And then a Philadelphia cheesesteak the very next day? (Even the Hobbits ate vegetables…)
And what sort of theological ramifications does this have? Is there a chocolate river in the CK—sort of like the one that the plump German kid falls into in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory ? Except in the CK, you can just guzzle from it guilt-free, without fear of falling in or getting sucked up a tube?
And the Afore, who is currently in retreat—licking his wounds and sucking on his NDE pacifier—has claimed that this whole trip is a kind of atypical “one off.” Really? So the pastrami sandwiches at The Hat were never eaten? The date shakes (many, many of them) were never sucked down? The falafels in Israel weren’t eaten? The trips to Europe weren’t punctuated with meals of goulash, cheese fondue, and schnitzel (which, come to think of it, is sort of an atavistic version of chicken-fried steak)?
Here is a challenge to any student of Mopologetics: Can you find a single mention—anywhere in the thousands of posts in the annals of SeN—where an actual, whole vegetable is eaten? Extra credit will be given to anyone who can successfully find one!
Consider this: if Jesus—or Joseph Smith—was offered a chocolate milkshake for dinner, would he/they have accepted it? (The WoW comes straight from Joseph Smith…what would he have thought about the Interpreter-dictated food options?) And what about other Mopologetic idols—C.S. Lewis and Tolkien, for example. Would they have ordered chicken-fried steak for lunch? And then a Philadelphia cheesesteak the very next day? (Even the Hobbits ate vegetables…)
And what sort of theological ramifications does this have? Is there a chocolate river in the CK—sort of like the one that the plump German kid falls into in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory ? Except in the CK, you can just guzzle from it guilt-free, without fear of falling in or getting sucked up a tube?
And the Afore, who is currently in retreat—licking his wounds and sucking on his NDE pacifier—has claimed that this whole trip is a kind of atypical “one off.” Really? So the pastrami sandwiches at The Hat were never eaten? The date shakes (many, many of them) were never sucked down? The falafels in Israel weren’t eaten? The trips to Europe weren’t punctuated with meals of goulash, cheese fondue, and schnitzel (which, come to think of it, is sort of an atavistic version of chicken-fried steak)?
Here is a challenge to any student of Mopologetics: Can you find a single mention—anywhere in the thousands of posts in the annals of SeN—where an actual, whole vegetable is eaten? Extra credit will be given to anyone who can successfully find one!
"If, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
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Re: More Travel and Dining Expenses for "Bowdlerizing Brigham"?
There was the time his wife saved him a plate from an interpreter event, with baked beans on it. (Beans are technically not a vegetable but are sometimes grouped with them due to protein count-and we all know we're not finding a actual vegetable sighting, so let's go with it.)
I don't think these beans should really count, though, as he probably ate them in a calorie-laden sauce of molasses, brown sugar, regular sugar, ketchup and BBQ sauce, mixed with sauted onions and lots of bacon (Yes I grew up in the Mormon west), while mourning that they weren't accompanied by the peach cobbler and ice cream dessert that was, apparently, NOT saved for him.
(His wife told him they were ...out. I can just hear her saying it. "No, really! It was all gone before I got there. But here's a plate of food food. Please, just eat that, instead. Please." )
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... alism.html
I don't think these beans should really count, though, as he probably ate them in a calorie-laden sauce of molasses, brown sugar, regular sugar, ketchup and BBQ sauce, mixed with sauted onions and lots of bacon (Yes I grew up in the Mormon west), while mourning that they weren't accompanied by the peach cobbler and ice cream dessert that was, apparently, NOT saved for him.
(His wife told him they were ...out. I can just hear her saying it. "No, really! It was all gone before I got there. But here's a plate of food food. Please, just eat that, instead. Please." )
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... alism.html
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Re: More Travel and Dining Expenses for "Bowdlerizing Brigham"?
The problem with him posting things like “I ate a nice salad today” or “the side order of steamed broccoli was delicious” is that his physique gives the game away. He eats crap. Lots of it. Every day. That’s the only way you get that physique. And that diet is against the spirit of the word of wisdom. Which would be fine if he didn’t, periodically, preach about the benefits of the word of wisdom. If you don’t practice what you preach, don’t preach. Simple.
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Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: More Travel and Dining Expenses for "Bowdlerizing Brigham"?
Prompt to Gemini: "Provide a conceptual visualization of Mormon apologist Daniel C. Peterson engaged in his current activities, based on his recent public schedule and intellectual pursuits."


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