WHO or WHICH is most important?

[Shulem]

Judaism is a cultural belief system. I do not see it as a race. However, I do note you as being contrary to everything New Testament, Christian, and regarding the LORD Jesus Christ.

I’m afraid, my friend, you lack understanding and are mistaken on multiple points.

I feel sorry for you. I cannot help you.

However, I do note you as being contrary to everything New Testament, Christian, and regarding the LORD Jesus Christ.

I am not a Christian but appreciate some of the wise sayings and teachings of Christ which I interpret very differently than most Christians who think they have it all figured out.

...one must either accept that Jesus was the MESSIAH or that HE was not ---- but regardless HE was born and lived in Judea and ministered in Judea and Galilee. Jesus spoke in the temple at Jerusalem. There are Jews alive today who cannot claim most of that.

My answer:

Jesus’ Forbidden Teachings To Escape The Matrix

Video

...Jesus taught a different tradition than what we received from the church from the Roman Church...

...Buddha Jesus the yogis of Tibet and the Himalayas were all revered teachers they only wanted to Enlighten the population with their Mystic findings there was never an intention of control or manipulation but while Jesus wanted to give us the message of self-empowerment all along the people who came after him and were in charge of handling the sacred texts did not share the same zest for serving Humanity they wanted to use these texts to subject Humanity to control and restriction and eventually push them to states of learned victimhood so they changed the official Narrative of the Sacred Scriptures such as the New Testament instead of it being solely a text encouraging self exploration and going inwards to find answers it was reduced to a manual to please and entertain an external God...

...the story about Jesus dying for our sins was a total fabrication of the spiritual lessons the influential people in the church carved out a story to make us feel guilty about our actions that do not necessarily conform to the traditional religious view this has all been a part of their effort to control the masses this version of events was not by chance instead everything and every fact was strategically manipulated to instill feelings of guilt shame and fear within us this guilt trip is central to the concept of original sin...

...Jesus didn't come into the world as a savior of the Mortal race instead he served a spiritual inspiration a guide who wanted to encourage us to follow our path and seek our own truth his message was not about blind devotion but about empowerment urging us to recognize the sacredness within ourselves and to cultivate a direct relationship with the Divine Jesus had no interest in making us all into his worshippers he never wanted to be praised celebrated or feared that would have been a distraction from his original message...

I do hope that helps.

[LittleNipper]

Judaism is a cultural belief system. I do not see it as a race. However, I do note you as being contrary to everything New Testament, Christian, and regarding the LORD Jesus Christ.

I’m afraid, my friend, you lack understanding and are mistaken on multiple points.

I feel sorry for you. I cannot help you.

However, I do note you as being contrary to everything New Testament, Christian, and regarding the LORD Jesus Christ.

I am not a Christian but appreciate some of the wise sayings and teachings of Christ which I interpret very differently than most Christians who think they have it all figured out.

...one must either accept that Jesus was the MESSIAH or that HE was not ---- but regardless HE was born and lived in Judea and ministered in Judea and Galilee. Jesus spoke in the temple at Jerusalem. There are Jews alive today who cannot claim most of that.

My answer:

Jesus’ Forbidden Teachings To Escape The Matrix

Video

...Jesus taught a different tradition than what we received from the church from the Roman Church...

...Buddha Jesus the yogis of Tibet and the Himalayas were all revered teachers they only wanted to Enlighten the population with their Mystic findings there was never an intention of control or manipulation but while Jesus wanted to give us the message of self-empowerment all along the people who came after him and were in charge of handling the sacred texts did not share the same zest for serving Humanity they wanted to use these texts to subject Humanity to control and restriction and eventually push them to states of learned victimhood so they changed the official Narrative of the Sacred Scriptures such as the New Testament instead of it being solely a text encouraging self exploration and going inwards to find answers it was reduced to a manual to please and entertain an external God...

...the story about Jesus dying for our sins was a total fabrication of the spiritual lessons the influential people in the church carved out a story to make us feel guilty about our actions that do not necessarily conform to the traditional religious view this has all been a part of their effort to control the masses this version of events was not by chance instead everything and every fact was strategically manipulated to instill feelings of guilt shame and fear within us this guilt trip is central to the concept of original sin...

...Jesus didn't come into the world as a savior of the Mortal race instead he served a spiritual inspiration a guide who wanted to encourage us to follow our path and seek our own truth his message was not about blind devotion but about empowerment urging us to recognize the sacredness within ourselves and to cultivate a direct relationship with the Divine Jesus had no interest in making us all into his worshippers he never wanted to be praised celebrated or feared that would have been a distraction from his original message...

I do hope that helps.

You are entirely correct when you say that you cannot help me. Only the LORD Jesus Christ/MESSIAH can save. No one else has that ability.
However, you are entirety wrong when you say Jesus came to enlighten people with "HIS findings." Jesus came to save. Jesus said, "I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes into the FATHER but through me." That doesn't in anyway sound like someone trying to encourage other to follow their own paths and ideas ---- nor pursue their own truth.

I know that you have your own interpretations of the OLD TESTAMENT, but honestly they reveal that you only wish to discredit Jesus as being the MESSIAH. Jesus ask Peter, "But who do you think I AM?" And what did Peter answer? and what did Jesus say in response?

I do take issue with the "Roman Church." But that's an entirely different topic

[Shulem]

You are entirely correct when you say that you cannot help me. Only the LORD Jesus Christ/MESSIAH can save. No one else has that ability.

And you are entitled and free to believe those religious concepts to your heart’s content. The problem I have is when unbelievers are threatened under pain of hellfire if they don’t believe *your* religion. I trust you understand my concerns.

However, you are entirety wrong when you say Jesus came to enlighten people with "HIS findings." Jesus came to save. Jesus said, "I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes into the FATHER but through me." That doesn't in anyway sound like someone trying to encourage other to follow their own paths and ideas ---- nor pursue their own truth.

You have the New Testament as presently constituted, prepared, scripted, and presented by those who wrote it. But you cannot produce an original manuscript (autograph) written in Jesus’s own physical hand -- that simply does not exist. I wish it did! What you do have is the product of scribes. Again, I am of the belief that religionists corrupted his original messages and pretended to speak for Jesus and touted how they did so by the Holy Spirit -- but they lied.

I know that you have your own interpretations of the OLD TESTAMENT, but honestly they reveal that you only wish to discredit Jesus as being the MESSIAH. Jesus ask Peter, "But who do you think I AM?" And what did Peter answer? and what did Jesus say in response?

I understand you believe Jesus was anointed by his Father and is the only ONE deserving of that title. I beg to differ in your interpretation of the one I AM.

I do take issue with the "Roman Church." But that's an entirely different topic

Yes, that is another topic. And, had you lived in those times it may be the Roman Church might have taken issue with you! Can you imagine what they might have done to you? Ouch!

[Limnor]

What you do have is the product of scribes. Again, I am of the belief that religionists corrupted his original messages and pretended to speak for Jesus and touted how they did so by the Holy Spirit -- but they lied.

What parts?

[LittleNipper]

You are entirely correct when you say that you cannot help me. Only the LORD Jesus Christ/MESSIAH can save. No one else has that ability.

And you are entitled and free to believe those religious concepts to your heart’s content. The problem I have is when unbelievers are threatened under pain of hellfire if they don’t believe *your* religion. I trust you understand my concerns.

However, you are entirety wrong when you say Jesus came to enlighten people with "HIS findings." Jesus came to save. Jesus said, "I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes into the FATHER but through me." That doesn't in anyway sound like someone trying to encourage other to follow their own paths and ideas ---- nor pursue their own truth.

You have the New Testament as presently constituted, prepared, scripted, and presented by those who wrote it. But you cannot produce an original manuscript (autograph) written in Jesus’s own physical hand -- that simply does not exist. I wish it did! What you do have is the product of scribes. Again, I am of the belief that religionists corrupted his original messages and pretended to speak for Jesus and touted how they did so by the Holy Spirit -- but they lied.

I know that you have your own interpretations of the OLD TESTAMENT, but honestly they reveal that you only wish to discredit Jesus as being the MESSIAH. Jesus ask Peter, "But who do you think I AM?" And what did Peter answer? and what did Jesus say in response?

I understand you believe Jesus was anointed by his Father and is the only ONE deserving of that title. I beg to differ in your interpretation of the one I AM.

I do take issue with the "Roman Church." But that's an entirely different topic

Yes, that is another topic. And, had you lived in those times it may be the Roman Church might have taken issue with you! Can you imagine what they might have done to you? Ouch!

You are entirely free to stick you hand in a fire ---- even when I tell you that you will burn your hand. I'm not threatening you. I'm providing you with a warning because I care. If I didn't care ----- I would waste my time and could care less where you end up. But that would be very Christian. I do care what happens to you and I'm here banging on your door with the warning that your house is afire. Seven times Jesus used the term "I AM".

And Jesus said to them, "I AM the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst." -John 6:35

"I AM the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life." -John 8:12

"I AM the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture." -John 10:9

"I AM the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep." -John 10:11

"I AM the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?" -John 11:25, 26

"I AM the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." -John 14:6 Already mentioned

"I AM the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing." -John 15:5

As for the Roman Church, I believe that GOD has been working on them. There are things I still see as unbiblical. And all tradition is tempered by scripture and not visa versa. However, in recent years that church has become more Protestant than many formerly steadfast Protestant churches that have now embraced liberalism --- denying the Bible they once held sacred.

[Shulem]

What you do have is the product of scribes. Again, I am of the belief that religionists corrupted his original messages and pretended to speak for Jesus and touted how they did so by the Holy Spirit -- but they lied.

What parts?

Lots of parts, but, primarily the parts where Jesus is said to declare himself as a sacrificial savior in which humanity and the world would or could be saved through him. That was not his mission nor his purpose. Remove those things from the four gospels and you will get much closer to what he actually taught and believed. But even Jesus was not perfect and made mistakes.

I would love to read one of his original manuscripts, written by his own hand upon scrolls. Too bad they do not exist.

[Shulem]

You are entirely free to stick you hand in a fire ---- even when I tell you that you will burn your hand.

I’ll try to keep me hand out of the fire.

I'm not threatening you.

I know. The Bible is the real threat.

I'm providing you with a warning because I care. If I didn't care ----- I would waste my time and could care less where you end up. But that would be very Christian. I do care what happens to you and I'm here banging on your door with the warning that your house is afire.

Okay.

[Shulem]

As for the Roman Church, I believe that GOD has been working on them. There are things I still see as unbiblical. And all tradition is tempered by scripture and not visa versa. However, in recent years that church has become more Protestant than many formerly steadfast Protestant churches that have now embraced liberalism --- denying the Bible they once held sacred.

Christians certainly have their problems.

[LittleNipper]

As for the Roman Church, I believe that GOD has been working on them. There are things I still see as unbiblical. And all tradition is tempered by scripture and not visa versa. However, in recent years that church has become more Protestant than many formerly steadfast Protestant churches that have now embraced liberalism --- denying the Bible they once held sacred.

Christians certainly have their problems.

Non-believers have far more and eternal ones in addition.

[Shulem]

Non-believers have far more and eternal ones in addition.

Of course, you will admit, that is your faith-based opinion which you cannot prove -- right NOW. It’s pure religious dogma.

I am not worried or concerned in the least bit.