This is an excellent point. I have long held that society needs both progressive/liberals and conservatives, who honestly listen to each other. Together they form a negative feedback loop that ideally prevents both stagnation and speeding out of control and flying off the rails.huckelberry wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:53 pmHonorentheos, I think your description on progressive and conservative is reasonable and clear. It think it is good point to note that a society needs both. You mention the danger of some progressives who loose sense of the value of some conservative principals and think and speak as if tearing everything down to start anew is more than a dangerous fantasy. On the first page here Some Schmo opined that group could be 15 percent of democratic voters.I thought that perhaps a bit high.(I hope)
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:22 pmPicking out perhaps the most important paragraph in Honor’s excellent post. The country’s wealthiest people pay virtually no federal income tax on their massive accumulation of wealth. It’s a shame people like Xanax and AM don’t read, because this article is an eye opener:
https://www.propublica.org/article/the- ... income-tax
Hopefully they’ll click on the link, scroll a bit, and let their eyes rest on the graphic.

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Neither Ajax nor Fanaticmike understand what critical race theory is but it is hilarious watching someone who regularly misspells "too" and "lose" speak as if he's grasped a concept that is only taught in specific graduate courses. These two characters encapsulate everything that's wrong with today's GOP. Uneducated and proud of it.
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YES!!YES!!YES!!!!! I am so glad that we have now gotten to the point in our relationship that we are giving each other nicknames to our board nicknames, YES!! So Icarus, my new nickname for you is #2. Not because of what you might think, has nothing to do with pooping. I've just come to realize that after reading through many of your post, that there's a 100% probability that your penis is the same diameter as a #2 pencil. HI!! #2 !!Icarus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:04 amNeither Ajax nor Fanaticmike understand what critical race theory is but it is hilarious watching someone who regularly misspells "too" and "lose" speak as if he's grasped a concept that is only taught in specific graduate courses. These two characters encapsulate everything that's wrong with today's GOP. Uneducated and proud of it.
Well #2, since you think critical race theory is only being taught in specific graduate courses I'm going to post some videos for you #2. Hopefully I'm going to post some videos, this will be my first attempt on here trying to post videos.
https://youtu.be/m66rcHzWaPU
https://youtu.be/WRK9NEZGnTw
https://youtu.be/A2LcNzZK8Mk
https://youtu.be/zeHqZT-NsxE
https://youtu.be/xgWmlo_56ug
#2, if you want to support a theory, "critical theory" an idea that came from Germany in the 1930s from a bunch of "educated white men" then feel free. But me and my dumbass that doesn't know when to use the correct spelling of "to or too" is going to err on the side of caution and not trust any theory that came out of Germany from that period. If you want to embrace Marxism then go ahead, it's a free country, I think.
Peace out
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And so Atlanticmike provided 3 more examples of arguments that mischaracterized critical race theory and almost completely missed the point of it. Based on the excellent links canpakes and others provided and what else I have read so far by leading critical race theory proponents, those examples are almost textbook examples of strawman arguments IMHO. That some very exceptional and/or lucky members of marginalized minorities manage to beat the odds, and rise above the limitations that systemic racism, past or present, have tended to marginalize them, with little or no outside help, does not in any way invalidate the basic premises of critical race theory, nor invalidate the idea that we ought to be on the alert for, honestly acknowledge and work to root out whatever biases and unfair attitudes and practices still exist.
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Were you going to post something about critical race theory itself, or just rely solely on tiktok for your ‘education’ and propaganda needs? ; )Atlanticmike wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:24 am:: posts links to three random folks talking for a minute about how they don’t like critical race theory, as his reason to not like critical race theory ::
Here, expand your resources:
https://pulitzercenter.org/sites/defaul ... roject.pdf
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AM,
Please explain how each video is directly related to critical race theory, and then explain how it’s being taught, or being proposed to be taught, in schools.
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Please explain how each video is directly related to critical race theory, and then explain how it’s being taught, or being proposed to be taught, in schools.
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That's not fair, Doc. He'd have to understand critical race theory rather than have memorized the right wing talking points in order to answer that question. How's he going to maintain his ignorance and answer your question at the same time?Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:44 pmAM,
Please explain how each video is directly related to critical race theory, and then explain how it’s being taught, or being proposed to be taught, in schools.
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I mean, I suppose he could read your post and just decide to ignore it, burying the thought that you're probably going to expose his ignorance if he attempts to actually answer the question.
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You're not "erring on the side of caution," you're merely mimicking the talking heads at FOX Noise who tell you what you're supposed to be outraged about. None of your videos negate what I said, but you're just too dumb to understand that. critical race theory is not taught in schools. Period. It is only taught in some upper tier courses that are electives.Atlanticmike wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:24 amYES!!YES!!YES!!!!! I am so glad that we have now gotten to the point in our relationship that we are giving each other nicknames to our board nicknames, YES!! So Icarus, my new nickname for you is #2. Not because of what you might think, has nothing to do with pooping. I've just come to realize that after reading through many of your post, that there's a 100% probability that your penis is the same diameter as a #2 pencil. HI!! #2 !!Icarus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:04 amNeither Ajax nor Fanaticmike understand what critical race theory is but it is hilarious watching someone who regularly misspells "too" and "lose" speak as if he's grasped a concept that is only taught in specific graduate courses. These two characters encapsulate everything that's wrong with today's GOP. Uneducated and proud of it.
Well #2, since you think critical race theory is only being taught in specific graduate courses I'm going to post some videos for you #2. Hopefully I'm going to post some videos, this will be my first attempt on here trying to post videos.
https://youtu.be/m66rcHzWaPU
https://youtu.be/WRK9NEZGnTw
https://youtu.be/A2LcNzZK8Mk
#2, if you want to support a theory, "critical theory" an idea that came from Germany in the 1930s from a bunch of "educated white men" then feel free. But me and my dumbass that doesn't know when to use the correct spelling of "to or too" is going to err on the side of caution and not trust any theory that came out of Germany from that period. If you want to embrace Marxism then go ahead, it's a free country, I think.
Peace out, love ya buddy
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